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Young Atheist Growing up in a Anti-Religion House.
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RE: Young Atheist Growing up in a Anti-Religion House.
(June 28, 2012 at 10:12 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 27, 2012 at 8:33 am)Zaphod Beeblebrox Wrote: I'm an atheist for all my life, i hate church, and religion as much I hate capitalism.(Sorry im raised in such family)
I listen to: Psychedelic Rock, Prog Rock, Reggae, Old Rock, Hard Rock, Jazz,punk rock.... any old stuff from 60-70.I hate today music.
I'm also very connected with the beauty of nature. I spend almost every day in my happy place I cant stand civilization.I also meditate quite often,i meditate now for about 2 years,it really changed my life. Findings that i obtaine in state of meditation really helps me,also all the ideas i get i often found them while im meditating.
I'm going to high school now when the summer vacation are over in school im interested in biology, history, geography and philosophy. I'm not really sure what I want to be but I think that im going to be a teacher for history or biology. I'm also very active in sports.
Oh yea I have a lot in commons with computing,and im a big supporter of GNU/Linux and im a big fan of Richard Stallman,and Linus Torvalds.
I'm currently reading some books about Darwin,great stuff! Tiger (ha funny animal)
I'm also into politics, and i follow the teachings of Leon Trotsky.

A couple of things. First off, welcome.

Glad you didn't get sucked into religion. But in what context do you "hate" religion. I do too but I clarify it as to not scare believers.

I hate it as a concept. I see it as nothing more than an artificial label and social club in the form of anthropomorphic place card for our natural evolutionary trait of safety in numbers.

But I cannot, as a minority atheist discard the concept of human rights. Humans are always going to have irrational beliefs, because the goal of evolution isn't about facts, only getting to the point of reproduction. So in that sense I don't "hate" religion. I can like a person, without liking everything they do or say.

Third, what do you have against "capitalism"? In context the literal root means "to take advantage of". There is not one government on the face of the planet that does not try to gain resources, being affective at it is a different story. China has capitalism, it sells tons of cheap crap to the rest of the world and has western businesses operating out of it. Gadaffi was a billionaire who owned stock in GE.

What I hate is not "capitalism" but monopolies and abuse of power because someone has money to abuse others with. China does that too, so abuse, not wealth is the problem for me.

I DO value an open market and private business ownership. But there are far too many corporate bullies and not enough worker rights and mom and pop shops that can compete with the top and our current supreme court has screwed the pooch and opened the flood gates for a plutocracy ruled by the rich.

I do value an open market with a mixed economy where both the private sector and government give you options and prevent both government AND private sector from gaining a monopoly over the other.

I do agree, at least with America, at this moment in time, there is abuse, but that has not always been the case. We did have as mom and pop shop owners, and workers and poor, had more power when we had more unions and higher taxes that, after WW2 built the middle class, and the uber republicans and uber uber Libertarians are to fucking stupid to see that back then there was less of a need for government because the top cared much more back then than they do now.

But I see nothing wrong with wealth within reason. When people are not suffering you could keep more of what you have, but when people are suffering, the moral thing to do when you have more, is to think about others.

Our current climate is what I have a problem with, not wealth or someone's personal goals.

Other than that welcome.

1#You can hate religion in different views,i hate it as an ideology,how it brainwashes people,and it "relieves" people from thinking and asking questions.
It's also slowing our society,trying to kill "fags",shooting abortion clinics,flying planes into buildings and being non tolerant to people without same believes as you is all apart of being a religious people.

I dont care if people believe in god or a talking dog,as soon they arent going to slow the process down. (dont allow homosexual people to get married,rape other people with your ideas,..)

oh yeas anit-capitalistic debate finely.

I hate capitalism for many reasons.

first of all i believe that working class needs to have complete control of their products.(why is it fer that someone keeps almost all the profit and he does almost nothing,and the people who made the products get almost nothing)
Globalisation is the biggest crime in the history of earth. (Todays crisis is much fault of globalisation)
Capitalism is very much responsible because of poisoning our planet.
also i want to have free school education and free medicine service (poor or not)

Look if we want to have a debate on anti-capitalism you need to have skype,i cant form words so good to make a point.

but my point is : Capitalism is a big casino for every huge winner there are tens of millions of losers...and work (hard, easy, or non-existent) has very little to do with it.
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