Is Christianity Illogical?

[spockrates]

Can one truly be enslaved by one with whom he completely agrees? Consider a man who marries the perfect woman for him: Would you say his relationship enslaves him? If so, why?

If the woman he marries is but a figment of his imagination... then, yes, he's enslaved. A real live woman would have something to give back to him, yet an imaginary one would do nothing for him, no matter how much he did for her.

Agreed! So how do we know what woman God is like?

[Erinome]

I have no reason to believe that they are, but perhaps you know and will show me?

So then why not subscribe to all of them?

Why don't you believe that jesus was merely a prophet, as well as your savior and a false prophet? Why don't you worship at temples of goddesses and shave your head to please them while simultaneously growing it out to please other gods?

If all the other religions are not illogical, then why do you offend the other gods by not worshiping them too?

Logic! I think first you have to know what it means.

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If the woman he marries is but a figment of his imagination... then, yes, he's enslaved. A real live woman would have something to give back to him, yet an imaginary one would do nothing for him, no matter how much he did for her.

Agreed! So how do we know what woman God is like?

Because one you can see, hear and smell, and the other one is just in your mind.

So yeah, that's how we know. When was the last time you saw your god?

[LastPoet]

Agreed! So how do we know what woman God is like?

God has big boobs?That would be somethng to worship

[spockrates]

Hi Annik. What kind of evidence would you accept as proof, if someone actually could provide it?

Hello. I like your username. It made me giggle.

Scientific evidence, friend. Like maybe proof that there is some kind of 'Heaven' dimension or even something as simple has video of him magically helping someone with his wizard-powers. Proof that the universe was actually sparked by a creator. Proof of the Bible being historically accurate. Things along that line. The thing is, the more we dig, the worse it looks for gods.

Might I ask why you believe in Christianity to begin with?

EDIT: Any prediction that is made can be "fulfilled" in literature. I could write a book about how the Rapture occurred. In a thousand years, people could take this as fact. However, that does not make it so.

Glad you got a kick out of the user name.



Regarding scientific evidence, are there not things we know are true despite any science to prove them? For example, we know that the word love is spelled love for non-scientific reasons. English is a language, not a science. We know 1 + 1 = 2, because mathematics (not science) tells us so. We know Plato was a student of Socrates, and Aristotle was a student of Plato, and Alexander the Great was a student of Aristotle. Yet it is historical evidence, rather than scientific evidence that causes us to elieve. Not all truth is proven true by science; don't you agree?

[Annik]

Hello. I like your username. It made me giggle.

Scientific evidence, friend. Like maybe proof that there is some kind of 'Heaven' dimension or even something as simple has video of him magically helping someone with his wizard-powers. Proof that the universe was actually sparked by a creator. Proof of the Bible being historically accurate. Things along that line. The thing is, the more we dig, the worse it looks for gods.

Might I ask why you believe in Christianity to begin with?

EDIT: Any prediction that is made can be "fulfilled" in literature. I could write a book about how the Rapture occurred. In a thousand years, people could take this as fact. However, that does not make it so.

Glad you got a kick out of the user name.



Regarding scientific evidence, are there not things we know are true despite any science to prove them? For example, we know that the word love is spelled love for non-scientific reasons. English is a language, not a science. We know 1 + 1 = 2, because mathematics (not science) tells us so. We know Plato was a student of Socrates, and Aristotle was a student of Plato, and Alexander the Great was a student of Aristotle. Yet it is historical evidence, rather than scientific evidence that tells us so. Not all truth is proven true by science; don't you agree?

Linguists, historians and mathematicians are scientists, of their respective fields. :3

[Hovik]

Hello. I like your username. It made me giggle.

Scientific evidence, friend. Like maybe proof that there is some kind of 'Heaven' dimension or even something as simple has video of him magically helping someone with his wizard-powers. Proof that the universe was actually sparked by a creator. Proof of the Bible being historically accurate. Things along that line. The thing is, the more we dig, the worse it looks for gods.

Might I ask why you believe in Christianity to begin with?

EDIT: Any prediction that is made can be "fulfilled" in literature. I could write a book about how the Rapture occurred. In a thousand years, people could take this as fact. However, that does not make it so.

Glad you got a kick out of the user name.



Regarding scientific evidence, are there not things we know are true despite any science to prove them? For example, we know that the word love is spelled love for non-scientific reasons. English is a language, not a science. We know 1 + 1 = 2, because mathematics (not science) tells us so. We know Plato was a student of Socrates, and Aristotle was a student of Plato, and Alexander the Great was a student of Aristotle. Yet it is historical evidence, rather than scientific evidence that causes us to elieve. Not all truth is proven true by science; don't you agree?

Actually, the study of history is a science. How do you think we know what we know? Archaeology, linguistics, philology, etc. are all sciences.

As for your assertion about language, I happen to be a linguist, and I'm going to have to disagree with you. We know the word 'love' is spelled 'love' because we have science that tells us the evolution of the word. English may not be a science, but then again neither are atoms. The study thereof is where science comes into play.

[jonb]

What is Christianity?
Is there a single meaning or do a lot of diffident groups use the term and then fight about what it actually means?
To attribute a quality to a thing without knowing what it is would be illogical,
much like taking the phrase from one factitious character and attributing it to another Watson.

[Tea Earl Grey Hot]

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Linguists, historians and mathematicians are scientists, of their respective fields. :3

Wonder if there are any "Mad Historians."

"Yes!" *lightning flash* "...the pyramids were built by ancient aliens...BWAHAHAHAHAHA!" *more lightning*

[Mystic]

If so, please explain why. If not, please explain why a logical person should still not become, or remain Christian.

1. Trinity.

It doesn't make sense. You worship both Jesus and the father whom are distinct yet one? If you worship both, that makes two gods.

Then trinity is saying, they are all one god. But this would only make sense if they are each other. Son = Father. Then God would be both father of himself and son of himself, which would make him son of the son, and father of the father.

Therefore this concept seemed like an illogical way to try to solve the very fact that Christianity calls to worship more then One being while trying to remain monotheistic.

2. Hell for non-believers.

Really, this paints an evil non-caring image of God. He loves believers enough to give them eternal paradise, the same is not true of non-believers. If the holy spirit called to Christianity, it certainly wasn't very loud. In the name of justice, he will torture people for eternity. Do you feel that cold towards non-believers? If not, they why should God?

3. Lack of proof

Many people desire the light, but are not guided to Christianity. There is good people in all sorts of religions that don't believe in Christianity. If the holy spirit is suppose to be the proof, it certainly doesn't seem that way to me, or most people for that matter. It rather seems only that way, to people whom believe.

4. Being super upset at polytheists.

Polytheists almost all worshipped God as the Highest. I don't see why he is so upset at the concept. Being a Jealous God seems quite illogical.

5. Believers whom are disobedient to God and the promises in bible.

I know it's possible to have faith in Jesus yet sin and be disobedient to God. However, the bible states those whom don't obey God in all his commands, will not enter paradise. And says those whom believe will enter paradise. Therefore you have a contradiction.

It also states that you must not desire the life of this world. Yet faithful people can desire the life of this world. Therefore while bible promises salvation, it also promises them damnation. A clear contradiction.

6. All sorts of contradictions and inspiration

If it was inspired, people could have been surely inspired only to write what they know? Right. In that case, there wouldn't be contradictions.

If such people were writing things they don't know, then it hardly seems inspired and reflective of God's will.

[Erinome]

Glad you got a kick out of the user name.



Regarding scientific evidence, are there not things we know are true despite any science to prove them? For example, we know that the word love is spelled love for non-scientific reasons. English is a language, not a science. We know 1 + 1 = 2, because mathematics (not science) tells us so. We know Plato was a student of Socrates, and Aristotle was a student of Plato, and Alexander the Great was a student of Aristotle. Yet it is historical evidence, rather than scientific evidence that causes us to elieve. Not all truth is proven true by science; don't you agree?

You're obviously not prepared to debate this topic. If you don't know that mathematics and linguistics are a science, then how could you even know what logic is, or be able to determine if something is logical?

I mean no disrespect when I say that this statement might very well be "AF Hall of Shame" material.