Ryan attacked for Ayn Rand Influence.

[A Theist]

You crack me up dude! Hey. you want the rest of this joint?

If its lemon haze I believe I will take advantage of your kind offer... by which I mean snatch it out of your hand and run away laughing deliriously.

It's all you man!

[Brian37]

^ Secularism.

Doesn't matter what your religious beliefs are, just what your political ones are.

I agree. Look politics should be nothing more than politicians in fighting over how how more people can pay their bills and put food on the table. The right says sink or swim and accuse the left of being a "nanny state". But the government who built the middle class after WW2, with it's high tax rate, should be Soviet Union, if we go by today's Republican standards.

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http://www.americablog.com/2012/08/who-i...ed-vp.html

While it has been pointed out before, now that Romney has chosen Paul Ryan, what makes him evil isn't his eccomic policies, what makes him evil, is the same thing the right accuses Obama of, just look at my godless commie sig below.

This blog is calling Ryan evil because of his influence of Ayan Rand's "militancy".

This pisses me off because this is clearly a left blog rightfully attacking a bat shit insane economic policy, but instead of attacking Ryan on that, it takes a cheap shot at atheists, because we are scapegoats both sides have used.

Let me make this clear, both to the right wing nuts, and to our liberal believing friends. Atheism has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with an individuals economic views. If both the right wing and left who may read this, would spend time here they would know that atheists DO NOT agree on all things all the time.

Beyond Saving I suspect is going to vote for Romney and Ryan(moreso to vote against Obama), and I am voting for Obama, and both of us are atheists.

Ayn Rand was an atheist, and so am I, but while I would have agreed with her rejection of a god, the only thing "militant" about her would be her economic policies. Katherine Hepburn on the other hand, was viewed widely throughout her career as a social liberal, most not knowing that she did not believe in a god.

"Militant" has become a slur both right wing and liberals have aimed at atheists and it is a bullshit tactic. We are part of society, and we are just as unique and individual in the scope of our lives when it comes to our class status, our politics and our likes and dislikes.

Ayn Rand had more in common to me, with the likes of Ann Coulter, than me. The fact that Ayn and I are atheists does not mean we have some stupid loyalty oath to each other, any more than a liberal Baptist has anything in common with a conservative Baptist.

To all reading this, there was a real and specific reason the founders put "NO RELIGIOUS TEST" into the oath of office. If Romney and Ryan came out tomorrow and said "We don't believe in a god", that would not make me vote for them, I would still vote for Obama.

Attacking Ryan and using atheists as a slur and scapegoat is a cheap shot, even when liberals do it. To my liberal friends who believe, please, you do yourselves a disservice to the concept of protecting diversity by using the same fear mongering the right uses, and insult atheists who do support your progressive policies.

Hold on! I'm not one of those people and I know a lot of conservatives who don't feel that way either. I don't put wedges between myself and fellow conservatives who incidentally may be atheists. I don't care that Paul Ryan reads Ayan Rand or that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. That's of no consequence to me. My argument is against the naive, snobbish leftist bubble world, hostile, vicious, double standard hypocrite, radical leftwing socialist militants, (some of which coincindentally, may either be atheists or Christians who attend radical leftwing 'no true scotsman' churches like the Reverend Jeremiah Wright's church).

I agree with Jeremiah and his "God Damned America" quote. There is still an economic gap between whites and blacks an still racism in this country. Still has NOTHING to do with my criticism of the left attacking Ryan, not on his economics, but being influenced by an atheist in Ayan Rand. They could have attacked him WITHOUT mentioning her. And the fact that I support social liberals would say they could have attacked his economic policies without doing such.

If humans would simply see politics as nothing more than a battle over resources, we would not be having this argument.