[split]Ron Paul plays Yahtzee with Nazis

[cratehorus]

Ron Paul Fans: "He's Not a Bigot, You Jew!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r8FyNCBE...ure=relmfu

Anonymous Exposes Ron Paul-White Supremacist Links
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZZewEt8n...re=related

[Tiberius]

Ron Paul collaborating with white supremacist against ''Black Americans'' Hitler-Style Coup!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ReWvPm2fgs

*sigh*

The newsletters again? Debunked multiple times. No, they were not written "under his name". They were written in a newsletter that bore his name. The actual articles themselves did not have an author attached to them, and there is far more evidence that someone other than Paul wrote them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp_sSqU0G-k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SwKixWPz4Q

Also, someone saying something about Ron Paul is not evidence that what they are saying is an accurate depiction of Ron Paul. When it comes to things like these, we can only go on what Ron Paul says, and what Ron Paul does, not some external interpretation of what he says or does.

Furthermore, as I've stated before (even in this thread I believe), it is a fallacy to imply that "once a racist, always a racist". Did Ron Paul once hold racist views? I don't know. Does Ron Paul still hold racist views? Absolutely not. Punishing people for abandoning racist views doesn't seem a very nice thing to do to me, which leads me to conclude that the only reason these issues are still talked about is political.

Finally, the video you posted is still not what I asked for, nor is it what you claimed. Where is the white-supremacist rally? Are you just full of hot air and exaggeration?

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Oh, and as for those last two videos you posted.

1. Ron Paul Fans =/= Ron Paul.
2. Ron Paul Fans (even white supremacist fans) =/= Ron Paul.

[cratehorus]

Furthermore, as I've stated before (even in this thread I believe), it is a fallacy to imply that "once a racist, always a racist". Did Ron Paul once hold racist views? I don't know. Does Ron Paul still hold racist views? Absolutely not.

Why? how could you possibly know that? Also why is he still taking money from the klan? If he's a "former racist"?

Finally, the video you posted is still not what I asked for, nor is it what you claimed. Where is the white-supremacist rally? Are you just full of hot air and exaggeration?

I told you he spoke at an 50th anniversary anti zionist rally and a neo confederate rally but that wasn't good enough for you ........apparently he needs to be screaming racial slurs at the top his lungs with swastikas in the background, for it to count as a real white supremacist rally......... and needs to have happened in the last 6 months

[A Theist]

I told you he spoke at an 50th anniversary anti zionist rally and a neo confederate rally but that wasn't good enough for you ........apparently he needs to be screaming racial slurs at the top his lungs with swastikas in the background, for it to count as a real white supremacist rally......... and needs to have happened in the last 6 months

That would pretty much clench it. Do you have any such You Tube videos of him doing that?

[Tiberius]

Why? how could you possibly know that? Also why is he still taking money from the klan? If he's a "former racist"?

I know because there is nothing he has said or done in recent years that point towards him being a racist. Rather, I see him speaking out against racism:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANMGAomxq_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gOoJNK8TkM

I've already covered why he takes money from racists...because as a libertarian he doesn't care what you believe personally; that is the essence of freedom of speech, expression, and thought. Money is money. Money from a racist is exactly the same as money from a non-racist. All money will help his campaign, and his campaign is completely against racism. I doubt it matters to Ron Paul that white supremacists are wasting their money supporting him.

I told you he spoke at an 50th anniversary anti zionist rally and a neo confederate rally but that wasn't good enough for you ........apparently he needs to be screaming racial slurs at the top his lungs with swastikas in the background, for it to count as a real white supremacist rally......... and needs to have happened in the last 6 months

Yes, you told me. I do not believe you. Besides, you did not say he spoke at a 50th anniversay anti zionist rally and a neo confederate rally; you said:

...the videos of him speaking at white power rallies and confrences...

I do not believe that claim. You have yet to substantiate that claim. All you have done is post videos which have no actual racist content on the part of Ron Paul...you have just decided to interpret them that way, or you have not been fully aware of all the facts (as with the newsletters).

No, to believe that Ron Paul is a racist, you'll have to show me evidence that within the last, let's say, 10 years, he has spoken at white power rallies as you claimed. That doesn't have to involve him screaming racial slurs, or swastikas, but it does have to be an actual white supremacist rally...

[cratehorus]

Still looking for that Tiberius I'm sure I'll find it soon.....In the mean time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8aEGs0WL...re=related

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While researching the "ron paul missing white supremacist radio" story I found this:

“We understand that Paul is not a white nationalist, but most of our people support him because of his stand on issues,” Mr. Black said. “We think our race is being threatened through a form of genocide by assimilation, meaning the allowing in of third-world immigrants into the United States.”
Mr. Black said Mr. Paul was attractive because of his “aggressive position on securing our borders,” his criticism of affirmative action and his goal of eliminating the Federal Reserve, which the Stormfront board considers to be essentially a private bank with no government oversight. “Also, our board recognizes that most of the leaders involved in the Fed and the international banking system are Jews.”

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t854636-2/

The Federal Reserve has nothing to fear from Romney or the Republican party that's filled with Neo Con Jews and others who are standing in line to suck the lifeblood out of America, as they use us in their attempts to create a One World Zionist government.....

The Federal Reserve should not exist, imho.

Our money should be created and handled by the Treasury Department. We should not have a private bank making money off every dollar used.

If the Federal Reserve was good for America, millions of Americans would not have lost their homes, our jobs would not have been sent overseas, and we would not have millions of homeless on our streets.

That's for openers.

We also wouldn't have a bunch of skinky Jews with a strangle hold on America and most every other government in the world too.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t910966/

[Creed of Heresy]

Anybody wondering why I put Cratehorus on ignore months ago yet?

[Darth]

Libertarian = Neo-Nazi

I was actually hoping you were a "real" libertarian like Mikhail Bakunin (who I've been reading about recently) , Ayn Rand (considered the mother of Objectivism), Milton Freidman (founder of trickle down economics), or Emma Goldman (considered founder of American anarchism).............. None of which have been involved in the white supremacist movement. The white nationalist movement began calling themselves "libertarians" in the 1980's.

Not really creed no

[cratehorus]

Let's Be Clear, Ron Paul Fucking Sucks. Here Are 20 Reasons Why...

http://www.littleredumbrella.com/2012/01...sucks.html

[5thHorseman]

I was actually hoping you were a "real" libertarian like Mikhail Bakunin (who I've been reading about recently) , Ayn Rand (considered the mother of Objectivism), Milton Freidman (founder of trickle down economics), or Emma Goldman (considered founder of American anarchism).............. None of which have been involved in the white supremacist movement. The white nationalist movement began calling themselves "libertarians" in the 1980's.

Funnily enough I was watching an interview with Milton Friedman when i noticed this. Putting Friedman and Rand in the same park is wrong, but i'll let Friedman tell you why, in his own words.

Go to 1.08, but watch the first bit to get his pov.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PaN9M4WwHw