Why Does Atheism and Left-Wing Politics Usually Go Together?

[A Theist]

Why are most atheists hard-core leftists who want to turn our nation into a European nanny state?

Atheists claim to be "free thinkers" and yet they fight for more and more control of every aspect of our lives until there is no freedom left for any of us.

Kind of a contradiction if you ask me.

Welcome by the way....If I'm not mistaken, I think we do have at least one conservative atheist on the forum. Tino?

In any event atheism is not as much an issue with me as the radical leftist anti-cultural politics are. Obama is a disgrace and his gentler apporoach of apology and appeasement and snubbing world leaders like Benjamin Netanyahu to get face time on the 'View' and 'Letterman' has led to a foreign policy disaster that includes a 9/11 terrorist attack on our embassy in Lybia which left our ambassador and two embassy staff members dead....re-electing Barack Obama and far left democrats to a second term would be a disaster for this country.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Why are most atheists hard-core leftists who want to turn our nation into a European nanny state?

Atheists claim to be "free thinkers" and yet they fight for more and more control of every aspect of our lives until there is no freedom left for any of us.

Kind of a contradiction if you ask me.

Welcome by the way....If I'm not mistaken, I think we do have at least one conservative atheist on the forum. Tino?

In any event atheism is not as much an issue with me as the radical leftist anti-cultural politics are. Obama is a disgrace and his gentler apporoach of apology and appeasement and snubbing world leaders like Benjamin Netanyahu to get face time on the 'View' and 'Letterman' has led to a foreign policy disaster that includes a 9/11 terrorist attack on our embassy in Lybia which left our ambassador and two embassy staff members dead....re-electing Barack Obama and far left democrats to a second term would be a disaster for this country.

I don't think that he's somewhere near "conservative". I'm a conservative, right-wing person. I do not think that atheism is somewhat a left-wing thing, but rather something that was used so extensively by left-wingers, like communists, that it was falsely associated with it.
Left wing and right wing are only defined by their outlook on the world.
And that doesn't have to include their outlook on the afterlife.

[Tobie]

Why are most atheists hard-core leftists who want to turn our nation into a European nanny state?

Atheists claim to be "free thinkers" and yet they fight for more and more control of every aspect of our lives until there is no freedom left for any of us.

Kind of a contradiction if you ask me.

Welcome by the way....If I'm not mistaken, I think we do have at least one conservative atheist on the forum. Tino?

In any event atheism is not as much an issue with me as the radical leftist anti-cultural politics are. Obama is a disgrace and his gentler apporoach of apology and appeasement and snubbing world leaders like Benjamin Netanyahu to get face time on the 'View' and 'Letterman' has led to a foreign policy disaster that includes a 9/11 terrorist attack on our embassy in Lybia which left our ambassador and two embassy staff members dead....re-electing Barack Obama and far left democrats to a second term would be a disaster for this country.

Really? It's Obama's fault that some muslims attacked the US embassies over in the middle east? Please explain how this makes any sense at all.

Also, how haven't you learnt that democrats are not far left yet? Fox's bullshit pipe is still firmly stuck into your head, it would seem.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Welcome by the way....If I'm not mistaken, I think we do have at least one conservative atheist on the forum. Tino?

In any event atheism is not as much an issue with me as the radical leftist anti-cultural politics are. Obama is a disgrace and his gentler apporoach of apology and appeasement and snubbing world leaders like Benjamin Netanyahu to get face time on the 'View' and 'Letterman' has led to a foreign policy disaster that includes a 9/11 terrorist attack on our embassy in Lybia which left our ambassador and two embassy staff members dead....re-electing Barack Obama and far left democrats to a second term would be a disaster for this country.

Really? It's Obama's fault that some muslims attacked the US embassies over in the middle east? Please explain how this makes any sense at all.

Also, how haven't you learnt that democrats are not far left yet? Fox's bullshit pipe is still firmly stuck into your head, it would seem.

Obama is your president. Meaning he is responsible for the lot of things regarding Americans. IF someone else were in his position, the responsibility would be his, yes?

Besides, I do not accept designations such as "far-left" or "centre-left".
I only know left, or right. If you ask me, both democrats and republicans in the US are equally "left" to me.

[A Theist]

Welcome by the way....If I'm not mistaken, I think we do have at least one conservative atheist on the forum. Tino?

In any event atheism is not as much an issue with me as the radical leftist anti-cultural politics are. Obama is a disgrace and his gentler apporoach of apology and appeasement and snubbing world leaders like Benjamin Netanyahu to get face time on the 'View' and 'Letterman' has led to a foreign policy disaster that includes a 9/11 terrorist attack on our embassy in Lybia which left our ambassador and two embassy staff members dead....re-electing Barack Obama and far left democrats to a second term would be a disaster for this country.

Really? It's Obama's fault that some muslims attacked the US embassies over in the middle east? Please explain how this makes any sense at all.

Also, how haven't you learnt that democrats are not far left yet? Fox's bullshit pipe is still firmly stuck into your head, it would seem.

Some muslims you say? No. large mobs of muslims. Obama's gentler approach of appeasement to foreign policy emboldens the Islamic radicals. They don't fear retaliation from us. Iran certainly doesn't fear us and our allies. Ahmadinejad continues to threaten us and Israel and our allies, We have an ambassador and three embassy staff members who were tortured and killed in a 9/11 terrorist attack on our embassy in Lybia....and Barack Obama still avoids calling it a terrorist attack. Our embassies across the Middle East, Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia and elsewhere were also under seige by large frothing out of control mobs of Islamic radicals...Barack Obama refused to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss stopping Iran from developing a nuclear bomb because it was more important for him to show his mug on 'Letterman'....Barack Obama is a disaster. Yeah, it is his fault.

Also, I was specifying far left democrats, not all democrats....and it would seem to me that anyone who believes appeasement is the best foreign policy is naive.

[Tobie]

Really? It's Obama's fault that some muslims attacked the US embassies over in the middle east? Please explain how this makes any sense at all.

Also, how haven't you learnt that democrats are not far left yet? Fox's bullshit pipe is still firmly stuck into your head, it would seem.

Obama is your president. Meaning he is responsible for the lot of things regarding Americans. IF someone else were in his position, the responsibility would be his, yes?

Besides, I do not accept designations such as "far-left" or "centre-left".
I only know left, or right. If you ask me, both democrats and republicans in the US are equally "left" to me.

Obama is not my president. I'm stuck with David Cameron. Obama is in no way responsible for how various muslims thousands of miles away from his country will react to a video that insults said muslims' religion.

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Some muslims you say? No. large mobs of muslims. Obama's gentler approach of appeasement to foreign policy emboldens the Islamic radicals. They don't fear retaliation from us. Iran certainly doesn't fear us and our allies. Ahmadinejad continues to threaten us and Israel and our allies, We have an ambassador and three embassy staff members who were tortured and killed in a 9/11 terrorist attack on our embassy in Lybia....and Barack Obama still avoids calling it a terrorist attack. Our embassies across the Middle East, Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia and elsewhere were also under seige by large frothing out of control mobs of Islamic radicals...Barack Obama refused to meet with Benjamin Netanyahu to discuss stopping Iran from developing a nuclear bomb because it was more important for him to show his mug on 'Letterman'....Barack Obama is a disaster. Yeah, it is his fault.

Also, I was specifying far left democrats, not all democrats....and it would seem to me that anyone who believes appeasement is the best foreign policy is naive.

Yes some muslims. Some refers to a unclear amount of things.

Anyway, why is it the responsibility of the US/NATO to interfere with the middle east? Whatever they've been doing has done fairly little, despite it costing over $3 trillion in real terms to the US economy. $3 trillion could be better spent on other things.

[kılıç_mehmet]

Obama's gentler approach of appeasement to foreign policy emboldens the Islamic radicals.

What kind of an approach would you suggest, friend? If you are really saddened, or furious at the death of your nationals at the hand of others, send in your warriors!

They don't fear retaliation from us.

And I believe that you support a policy to rule over the smaller nations with fear, eh? Well, why should anyone fear you? What are you so capable of that people ought to cover in fear before you and ask for mercy? You are not the masters of this world, friend, and you never will be. Mastery of others is only confined to people with noble and ancient heritage.

Iran certainly doesn't fear us and our allies.

You can't force them to fear you while maintaining the notion of peace and democracy that you yourself claim to stand for.

Barack Obama still avoids calling it a terrorist attack.

It's actually an attack by the people. Well, I already knew that something like this would happen in a place where order does not exist. The US and the NATO have destroyed this order and harmony that existed there, and for what?

Also, I was specifying far left democrats, not all democrats....and it would seem to me that anyone who believes appeasement is the best foreign policy is naive.

I believe that the foreign policy of any US president should be to stay on the other part of the Atlantic...They belong there, while this part of the world belongs to us.
I believe it's quite arrogant and rather foolish of the US to think that they can assert superiority in any part of the Old World...This is why they still think that they can create more satelite states that they claim that they can control, eh? The time of mandates is over. People want independence, and they oppose any would-be masters who would try to rule over them via corporate colonization.

[A Theist]

Obama's gentler approach of appeasement to foreign policy emboldens the Islamic radicals.

What kind of an approach would you suggest, friend? If you are really saddened, or furious at the death of your nationals at the hand of others, send in your warriors!

They don't fear retaliation from us.

And I believe that you support a policy to rule over the smaller nations with fear, eh? Well, why should anyone fear you? What are you so capable of that people ought to cover in fear before you and ask for mercy? You are not the masters of this world, friend, and you never will be. Mastery of others is only confined to people with noble and ancient heritage.

Iran certainly doesn't fear us and our allies.

You can't force them to fear you while maintaining the notion of peace and democracy that you yourself claim to stand for.

Barack Obama still avoids calling it a terrorist attack.

It's actually an attack by the people. Well, I already knew that something like this would happen in a place where order does not exist. The US and the NATO have destroyed this order and harmony that existed there, and for what?

Also, I was specifying far left democrats, not all democrats....and it would seem to me that anyone who believes appeasement is the best foreign policy is naive.

I believe that the foreign policy of any US president should be to stay on the other part of the Atlantic...They belong there, while this part of the world belongs to us.
I believe it's quite arrogant and rather foolish of the US to think that they can assert superiority in any part of the Old World...This is why they still think that they can create more satelite states that they claim that they can control, eh? The time of mandates is over. People want independence, and they oppose any would-be masters who would try to rule over them via corporate colonization.

For one, we have friends and trading partners on the other side of the Atlantic....but if Turkey objects to our being there, then it's welcome to try to throw us out.

" The US and the NATO have destroyed this order and harmony that existed there, and for what?"....if Turkey objects to the US and NATO, then Turkey can withdraw its membership.

[kılıç_mehmet]

What kind of an approach would you suggest, friend? If you are really saddened, or furious at the death of your nationals at the hand of others, send in your warriors!
And I believe that you support a policy to rule over the smaller nations with fear, eh? Well, why should anyone fear you? What are you so capable of that people ought to cover in fear before you and ask for mercy? You are not the masters of this world, friend, and you never will be. Mastery of others is only confined to people with noble and ancient heritage.

You can't force them to fear you while maintaining the notion of peace and democracy that you yourself claim to stand for.
It's actually an attack by the people. Well, I already knew that something like this would happen in a place where order does not exist. The US and the NATO have destroyed this order and harmony that existed there, and for what?
I believe that the foreign policy of any US president should be to stay on the other part of the Atlantic...They belong there, while this part of the world belongs to us.
I believe it's quite arrogant and rather foolish of the US to think that they can assert superiority in any part of the Old World...This is why they still think that they can create more satelite states that they claim that they can control, eh? The time of mandates is over. People want independence, and they oppose any would-be masters who would try to rule over them via corporate colonization.

For one, we have friends and trading partners on the other side of the Atlantic....but if Turkey objects to our being there, then it's welcome to try to throw us out.

" The US and the NATO have destroyed this order and harmony that existed there, and for what?"....if Turkey objects to the US and NATO, then Turkey can withdraw its membership.

In time, that too will become reality. Membership of the NATO is nothing but a hurdle in our way to our true destiny. Besides, it's not me, who objects to you being in the lands of others. As long as you are not in our lands with purposes of war, you can come and go peacefully.
Indeed, if it required us to step into the scene to drive invaders from the other side of the atlantic, we would. But I'm sure that even the tribal pashtun with a jamming AK-47 is doing quite a good job at it, eh?

In all, trading interests and etc. are not a matter of aggresive foreign policy. Such things only serve to further your demise, and damage national unity and trust.
Actually you should be the one to object your presence in places like say, Afghanistan or Iraq, but I guess with such little national consciousness to speak of, why should you really try? Even though the supposedly "milder" Obama is running the show, the aggression has not stopped. Obama simply takes a more subtle approach to things, and in my view, that's how the US ought to handle things here, if it believes it's capable of doing so.

[Rev. Rye]

Well, if you vote Democratic this year you are voting for another four years of high unemployment, business failures, mortgage foreclosures, and out of control spending.

But I guess that's ok with you to keep some kid from praying in school.

And if we vote Republican, we'll see another four years of the policies that allowed the high unemployment, economic collapse, &c. to actually happen.