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I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 1, 2012 at 2:10 pm
I do not like vigilantism. But.
I exempt the Pope and others of his ilk from my usual rules against vigilante action.
For those criminals, I would say to any vigilante to go for it because those in power are ignoring the law of most lands as well as the young victims of such heinous crimes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z02J_kPincA
In terms of pedophile protecting regimes, need I say more?
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Muslims. What of you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3AvnWDYMpA
All such should pay a heavy price.
If moral people are not going to push their governments for justice then I would ask that vigilantes move themselves to action. Justice demands it.
Regards
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RE: I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 1, 2012 at 5:14 pm
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Cockburn strikes me as a self-righteous douchebag but the documentary looks very interesting. Do you know where the full version is available?
Never mind, here it is http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/...boys/view/
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RE: I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 1, 2012 at 6:02 pm
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2012 at 6:11 pm by Doubting_Thomas.)
what's the point? Is this a serious thread or something else?
Vigilantism is a complex moral question. Violent vigilantism often goes wrong, especially when religiously justified. However, there is at least one occasion in my life were, with hindsight, I wish I'd physically taught someone a lesson, but that would have been illegal, and that's a law I quite agree with*. So I cannot come out and say that vigilantism isn't always unfair. But evoking rocket launchers?!?!?!??! Thinking people, including by definition most atheists-by-choice, should be above that.
*anyway, someone much bigger taught that person the lesson, although I doubt he learnt it.
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RE: I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 1, 2012 at 7:08 pm
Only vigilantism I approve of:
But seriously, no, vigilantism isn't alright. If people feel the need to deliver 'justice' outside of the law, the laws that need to be revised or rewritten to better serve the society and be adequate. Or then people need to learn not to act upon their feelings. Because what's the use of a justice system, if additional (non-controlled and regulated) punishment is delivered by an angry mob?
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 1, 2012 at 7:29 pm
The problem is of justification and who draws the line at what is or is not acceptable. Our laws need to be rewritten to make ALL religions fully accountable on ALL levels from taxation to accountability.
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RE: I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 1, 2012 at 7:43 pm
The laws are written to regulate society and maintain order. They are not written for any other reason, certainly not justice.
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RE: I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 1, 2012 at 7:59 pm
(October 1, 2012 at 7:43 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: The laws are written to regulate society and maintain order. They are not written for any other reason, certainly not justice.
There is no such thing as justice, so laws could not have any other function than to control. They just need to control the churches also.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
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Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
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RE: I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 1, 2012 at 8:33 pm
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(October 1, 2012 at 7:59 pm)IATIA Wrote: (October 1, 2012 at 7:43 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: The laws are written to regulate society and maintain order. They are not written for any other reason, certainly not justice.
There is no such thing as justice, so laws could not have any other function than to control. They just need to control the churches also.
Justice is an apriori concept developed by humans over countless years, as is morality. We adhere to them and hold them as standards to live by.
Over time it has become apparent that when pursued they make the world a better place to live in. For this reason we collectively project them onto the world around us, we strive to make it what guides us and makes us a cut above savages.
We make them real because thats the world we want to live, thats the world that is within our power to produce.
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RE: I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 1, 2012 at 8:34 pm
The issue with vigilantism is that it is quite difficult to know when an action has crossed the line.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: I do not like vigilantism. But.
October 2, 2012 at 2:02 am
What exactly is this thread advocating vigilantism against? Political country music?
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