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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Best I could decipher, S_Truth is asking: "Why do we work, go to school, have a personal life, get married, and have kids if there is no greater meaning to any of it?"
The short answer is pleasure. Life doesn't have a cut and dry "meaning" or "purpose". Human life doesn't have a standard "goal". It's just simplest to refer to it as a pursuit of pleasure.
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 6:09 pm
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(October 31, 2008 at 6:05 pm)Meatball Wrote: Best I could decipher, S_Truth is asking: "Why do we work, go to school, have a personal life, get married, and have kids if there is no greater meaning to any of it?"
The short answer is pleasure. Life doesn't have a cut and dry "meaning" or "purpose". Human life doesn't have a standard "goal". It's just simplest to refer to it as a pursuit of pleasure.
This pleasure is also useless because it leads you no where at the end you die same with the others they just die. And why do you believe for its a belief that you think life does not have a cut and dry meaning or purpose?
(October 31, 2008 at 6:09 pm)S_Truth Wrote: (October 31, 2008 at 6:05 pm)Meatball Wrote: Best I could decipher, S_Truth is asking: "Why do we work, go to school, have a personal life, get married, and have kids if there is no greater meaning to any of it?"
The short answer is pleasure. Life doesn't have a cut and dry "meaning" or "purpose". Human life doesn't have a standard "goal". It's just simplest to refer to it as a pursuit of pleasure.
This pleasure is also useless because it leads you no where at the end you die same with the others they just die. And why do you believe for its a belief that you think life does not have a cut and dry meaning or purpose?
A person indulges into this pleasure but ultimately gets no where. Once again an atheist life is meaningless. No one still has given me the answer I am searching for and others aswell who are searching for this answer for centuries.
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 6:13 pm
So that is a wrong?
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 6:16 pm
(October 31, 2008 at 6:13 pm)leo-rcc Wrote: So that is a wrong?
So what is wrong? I dont get what you are saying as wrong here
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 6:18 pm
Well you said you would tell us if our answers are wrong or right. Was Meatball's answer wrong?
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October 31, 2008 at 6:18 pm
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Quote:This pleasure is also useless because it leads you no where at the end you die same with the others they just die. And why do you believe for its a belief that you think life does not have a cut and dry meaning or purpose?
Well, if life had a cut and dry meaning or purpose, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Regarding pleasure, I shouldn't have to explain why one would pursue it, the concept is clear to any sentient being. You say that pleasure is useless because in the end you die like everyone else. I would rather pursue a pleasurable life than a miserable one if it's all the same in the end.
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October 31, 2008 at 6:19 pm
One can indulge into many pleasure but the end result is the same death without a ultimate meaning, which makes these pleasures pointless and the life pointless and meaningless.
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October 31, 2008 at 6:24 pm
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So what do you think doesn't make life pointless and meaningless? By your standards.
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 6:25 pm
(October 31, 2008 at 6:18 pm)Meatball Wrote: Quote:This pleasure is also useless because it leads you no where at the end you die same with the others they just die. And why do you believe for its a belief that you think life does not have a cut and dry meaning or purpose?
Well, if life had a cut and dry meaning or purpose, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Regarding pleasure, I shouldn't have to explain why one would pursue it, the concept is clear to any sentient being. You say that pleasure is useless because in the end you die like everyone else. I would rather pursue a pleasurable life than a miserable one if it's all the same in the end.
What you are missing to understand is if both bring you to the same result then both are useless and it doesn't matter what way you take.
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RE: Atheists= intelligent?
October 31, 2008 at 6:26 pm
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I'm on your side, man. I said in my first post life has no "goal" or "meaning".
I can't believe you don't understand the concept of pleasure though. If there was no point to pleasure and displeasure we'd be a sad, dead species.
Edit: Fuck it:
Pleasure is good because it FEELS GOOD. Immediate gratification is GOOD. It's the definition of pleasure. It gives you fuzzies. It makes you happy.
Just because I'll die in 40 years doesn't mean I should discount my life up until that point. It's faulty logic, and doesn't support any "meaning".
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