Americans, Do Not Vote

[cratehorus]

2 minutes into the video and I turned it off.................rates are different than the amount collected

[Spectrum]

2 minutes into the video and I turned it off.................rates are different than the amount collected

Who cares? It proved you to be the fuckwit that you are.

[Gilgamesh]

If it makes either of you feel better; I don't think discussions are something to be won or lost. Discussions are an exchange of idea's from which to learn.

[cratehorus]

okay he's either half-retarded or he's really fucking good at propaganda.................. alright let's try this one again

rate =the amount before deductions

collected= the amount after deductions

better?

[Spectrum]

If it makes either of you feel better; I don't think discussions are something to be won or lost. Discussions are an exchange of idea's from which to learn.

Yes, it must be nice to play the part of the peaceful mediator...

However, he and I are not equally at fault. He made bullshit statements concerning myself and Celtic Frost, and I was therefore obliged to debunk his lies. That's just what happens when a fool trifles with that which he cannot handle.

he's really fucking good at propaganda

Yes, my university offered classes.
Is English your seventh language. Or, are you another one of those 10 year old's who are liable to type at the expense of grammar, because he just discovered the internet?

There is no "propaganda". Stop getting all hot and bothered, take a deep breath, and chill out. You've already lost; you do yourself no good by continuing.

[Gilgamesh]

Yes, it must be nice to play the part of the peaceful mediator...

I apologise if that's how it appears. I don't like when people do it, either.

However, he and I are not equally at fault. He made bullshit statements concerning myself and Celtic Frost, and I was therefore obliged to debunk his lies. That's just what happens when a fool trifles with that which he cannot handle.

I agree.

[Spectrum]

I apologise if that's how it appears. I don't like when people do it, either.

Fair enough. No worries.

[kılıç_mehmet]

You don't want Bush on steroids? Have you seen the stuff the Obama administration has done over the past 4 years?

He extended the Patriot act, increased the amount of warrantless spying, signed the National Defense Authorization Act, which permits the government to hold suspects of terrorism indefinitely without trial (even if they are American), and operates a secret kill list.

But that's ok, because at least he closed Guantanamo right? Oh...yeah.

You already got Bush on steroids; he just happened to be a Democrat.

Obama is probably a much better guy than Romney, all things considered. What does it matter though? We already know that Obama is always doing what he can to appease the elite and military, at the expense of responsible economics and the public's rights. Why during the debate, he even agreed with Obama that the corporate tax rate needs to be lowered! Why would you do that, when the corporations are actually fairing pretty well, while everyone is not?

Obama is a lost cause, and Romney is too slimy. If you actually take the effort to go and vote for either of these guys, you're showing politicians that they can get power by simply showing up and making empty promises. You will be lowering the standards as to what constitutes leadership. You will be part of the problem.

It sounds nice, but only in theory, friend. People do not vote in America according to public interests, but self interests.

[Spectrum]

People do not vote in America according to public interests, but self interests.

Yeah, I suppose I expect a little too much out of the lemmings.

I won't be stopping them from running off the cliff, though. Good riddance. I just hope their poor personal choices don't bork over my life, entirely.

[cratehorus]

this guy's a full blown nazi just tried a private message debate (after he emailed me) be prepared for homophobia, sexism, and of course racism and religous bigotry....of course one race and religion will get preferential treatment

he's no leftist of mine