If everyone voted for the candidate who most matched their own political beliefs, the Democrats and Republicans would be finished. I honestly think that the only reason most "Democrats" vote Democrat and most "Republicans" vote Republican is to keep the other out of office. It's the problem with any electoral system which tends towards a two-party majority.
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Quote:Okay... I don't 100% disagree with you on the revolution front. Then be prepared to see the propertied classes unleash their thug cops on the revolutionaries. We only support revolutions abroad...never here in the "land of the free."
What? So basically your tactic is to allow things to get as bad as they can get? No, that is exactly the Republican tactic, drive the car off the cliff and then blame the passangers for their bad driving.
I am really angry that Obama's camp isnt drilling home the fact that Romney has 17 advisors who were part of Bush's campaign and cabinet. It is very telling that this is merely about winning otherwise why not Parade Bush arround with Romney if he was such a great president? No Bush had effective propgandists, but the substance of his actuall presidency was a disaster. I would recomend that anyone reading this make the suggestion to your local or state DNCs especially in swing states. There are way too many voters who are only paying attention now and if they knew what a camilian Romney was, the race wouldn't be this close. 17 BUSH ADVISERS ON ROMNEY'S TEAM, I would drill that home constantly for the next 8 days. RE: I'm Voting For Romney
October 29, 2012 at 12:22 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2012 at 12:37 pm by Aroura.)
(October 29, 2012 at 7:41 am)Tino Wrote:I know you......from another site. The Let the World Burn guy. CyberC.....??(October 29, 2012 at 2:34 am)Spectrum Wrote: After reassessing my views on my "Americans, Do Not Vote" thread, it seems that I am going about things the wrong way. You guys are right: Obama is the better candidate, and Romney would surely screw things up. That's just it, though. He would leave America in shambles! That's exactly what we need to shock the public into having a revolution of sorts. In order for them to truly realize our political quagmire, they must first be awakened. Once they are ruined by the current establishment, the public will rebel, causing a shift in values. This shift will allow the population to gain a new perspective needed for positive change. (October 29, 2012 at 2:34 am)Spectrum Wrote: After reassessing my views on my "Americans, Do Not Vote" thread, it seems that I am going about things the wrong way. You guys are right: Obama is the better candidate, and Romney would surely screw things up. That's just it, though. He would leave America in shambles! That's exactly what we need to shock the public into having a revolution of sorts. In order for them to truly realize our political quagmire, they must first be awakened. Once they are ruined by the current establishment, the public will rebel, causing a shift in values. This shift will allow the population to gain a new perspective needed for positive change.Do you really think it only sounds a LITTLE extreme to desire "America in shambles" in order to start a "revolution"? You know, sometimes revolutions just result in the destruction of the country/empire (or the put-down of the revolters), they don't always result in improvement. I can list 9 off the top of my head that didn't end well for a lot of people (including one in Germany!). I can think of 3 off the top of my head that did end well. I think history would teach us that revolution is only to be used as a last resort, and at your own peril, for it often backfires. If you think the problems in this country are so severe that we need to self destruct first before we can improve, well there probably isn't much one can say to reason with that sort of extremist position.
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October 29, 2012 at 12:35 pm
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(October 29, 2012 at 7:41 am)Tino Wrote: This is a big part of why I voted for Obama last time. If Romney is elected this time my strategy will have been successful. I strongly urge you to vote for Obama again, in order to give Ryan a better chance in 2016, of course. I would rather America eeek out 2-3 more decades of relative viability and stability under democrats, so I may profit from it, then to let Republicans collapse it into an unducated farce of a kleptocracy by casino barons, cutthroat arm dealers, and oily teleevengelists within my life time. apres moi, les deluge. The deluge is inevitable. The main economic and demographic current of the world would not permit the relative puny United States to retain such a position as to safeguard the propserity it has become accustomed to, and America is doing little to shore up such fundamentals as it can to prolong its tenure as a power of influence. Democrates would rather we do just a small inadaquate amount more, Republicans would rather we pray and shout jingoistic slogans, while doing nothing substantive whatsoever and giving what we have left to a few kleptocratic barons so they can build 90,000 square foot house they call "The Versaille". Either way it is coming. I rather it come after me. "The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad." Friedrich Nietzsche RE: I'm Voting For Romney
October 29, 2012 at 1:18 pm
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Romney is running a neck-and-neck race with Obama.
Even if Romney gets in and ruins everything, half the electorate will be glad he did. Erosion of civil rights for women and minorities is just the sort of ruin a lot of people in this country would welcome with open arms. And if the economy goes down the toilet, he'll blame Obama and 50 million Republican drones will agree with him. Not to mention, there's a significant portion of the Republican base who doesn't care as long as it's not a muslim nigger. (October 29, 2012 at 11:04 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:Okay... I don't 100% disagree with you on the revolution front. I wonder if we could get what's left of the Pinkerton's to switch sides then. RE: I'm Voting For Romney
October 29, 2012 at 1:40 pm
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(October 29, 2012 at 12:22 pm)Aroura Wrote:(October 29, 2012 at 7:41 am)Tino Wrote: This is a big part of why I voted for Obama last time. If Romney is elected this time my strategy will have been successful.I know you......from another site. The Let the World Burn guy. CyberC.....?? Nope, not me (October 29, 2012 at 1:18 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Romney is running a neck-and-neck race with Obama. Yes that's the secret Part Six of Romney's plan, 6) Get Rid of the Kenyan Muslim Nigger (you left off Kenyan, but no worries). You only get to see part Six of the plan if you're a bonafide conservative such as myself. Under Romney women will lose all control of their vaginas and I'll be scheduling mandatory nooners with Festive and SummerQueen. It's good to be a conservative. (October 29, 2012 at 8:38 am)Tiberius Wrote: If everyone voted for the candidate who most matched their own political beliefs, the Democrats and Republicans would be finished. I honestly think that the only reason most "Democrats" vote Democrat and most "Republicans" vote Republican is to keep the other out of office. It's the problem with any electoral system which tends towards a two-party majority. Strongly agree. There are a lot of democrats who aren't happy with Obama but Romney scares the shit out of us (I'm one of them). If there were a legitimate third choice, a lot of us would go in that direction. There are also a lot of Republicans who aren't especially fond of Romney, whether it's his flip flopping, his being a moderate or his being a Mormon, and they're only voting for him because they're terrified of Obama. Sadly, the last time we had a third party candidate that was even close to being a legitimate candidate was when Ross Perot ran in 1992 (and even then he didn't get a single electoral college vote). At very least, I'd like to see any election where one candidate doesn't get at least 50% of the vote to go into run-off. Candidates would have to establish themselves instead of simply bashing their opposition. Personally, I'm hoping someone like Ron Paul can redefine the Republican party. I may disagree with him and his supporters, but they have a more consistant view of government and could be just what the Republicans need to come back from the brink of insanity; I can respect him even if I disagree with him. Right now, they seem to be the party of economic anarchy coupled with a theocratic government as far as social matters go and war mongering foreign policy. Do any of them realize how much this mirrors what we see in third world countries or places like Iran or North Korea? Is that who they're modeling US policy after?
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