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Expose the bully's lies think long term.
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Expose the bully's lies think long term.
There is a incidious tactic waged by bullies with money. The old tactic of fear. One add uses our dept that has an Orewellian look to it with a auditorum full of Chinese people implied speech in communist China in using dept to defeat the west.

It sets up the false premise that in order to solve that problem the worker should simply work for less and work longer hours and treat those with less like dead weight in order to pay off the dept. Yet the people who fund this add are the ones looking at the Chinese modle of low wages and no worker rights and simply want to copy their model here.

It sets up the left falsely as feeding China's control over us when the reality is that coorporate greed simply wants to maximize profits like China does by setting up sweat shops and slave wages. It is an incidious add because it uses fear to get voters to vote against their own self economic interest by scare tactics. It is a con designed to keep the worker down and pick their pockets at the same time.

Another add running also uses that same tactic of fear with the word "socialist". It has an old man, who RIGHTFULLY condemned the soviet block he came from and it's lack of private sector. It assumes that all government bad and uses that fear to allow cooporate America to scare the shit out of the worker.

It is a false premise that because workers want a livable wage that meets the cost of living that somehow that is a slippery slope that will lead to the socialism of the Soviet block's bad economic model. It uses fear to mantain a plutocracy so that wages of workers, compete, not to go up, but fall.

If i could talk to this guy I would say to him personally, "Look, what you went through was bad and their model was bad, but you are being dupped by simply a monopoly"

These scare tactics unfortunately work. However, the cure to them is to REMIND people who buy this crap, is that our private sector did not dissapear when it did invest, like it did to win WW2 and when it did invest after WW2. It did not dissapear when it cooperated with the government in things like the GI bill and invesment in highways and our electric grid and invested in manufacturing that BOOMED our economy from that point forward.

BEYOND this ellection, we cannot lose site of this long term. They may have the money to sell this fear, but we have the power of the internet to debunk this bullshit.

It is way past time to allow this fearmongering by cooporate America to continue. They sell this fear, not because any worker wants a nanny state, they sell it to keep the status quo of low or falling wages in order to maximize profits.

This lie that because the working class and working poor want a socialist state has got to stop and be exposed for the blatant lie it is. GM is an example of wising up. They were humble enough as CEOS to finally understand that value of the worker is important in a healthy economy. There is not one worker who works there now that would want the pathetic fearmongering immages depicted in those incidious adds sold by bullies with money.

NOW more than ever and win or lose the working class needs to demand that these assholes stop selling fear. We do not want Soviet socialism. We do not want to end the private sector. We simply want to stop falling down further and want a livable standard. These goons who sell this garbage are the ones who want us to work for 2 dollars a day 16 hour days 6 days a week masturbating over China's successfull sweat shop model.

For far too long they have convinced you to give up more and work longer hours so that they can break you and control you and keep you desperate. The good news is not all business is like this. GM woke up it seems, and billionaires like Nick Hanour get it. But the climate is unfortunately controled by not these positive business owners, but the vuture extractionists.

The lie must be exposed for what it is when they try this bullshit. Working people and even the working poor DO value the private sector, just not the bullying and monopolies. We don't mind success. But we simply do not want those above us standing on our shoulders, pushing us down further in a race to look like China and then piss on us by using this sick scare tactics.

PLEASE anyone wanting to spread this OP ED please do. This cannot be a short term issue. Lawrance O'Donnall said it best "I want a government run by the people, not the 1%. It is time for us as workers to stand up to the bullying and an attempt to create a plutocracy. The wealthy are needed in an open market and it is sick to suggest that working people dont get that. But we are tired of being panted as anti market when all we want is to stop getting squeased so that the top can copy the sweat shop model of China.

Think long term win or lose. The assholes who use this scare tactic have been using this for 30 years so we can cure that by keeping our eyes on that tactic and on a daily basis remind everyone that that is just what it is, a scare tactic. Once you expose it for what it is, they will be forced to that we do value you, just not the current climate of fear. We do want an open market just not one based on lower wages and extractionism.

We can win long term and dispite what these assholes sell, workers do not want Soviet Socialism, just economic stability. PLEASE SPREAD THIS ARROUND ON A DAILY BASIS until these assholes scrap their incidious tactic of fear.
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RE: Expose the bully's lies think long term.
(November 1, 2012 at 10:22 am)Brian37 Wrote: There is a incidious tactic waged by bullies with money.
who?
Quote: The old tactic of fear.
which one?
Quote:One add uses our dept that has an Orewellian look to it with a auditorum full of Chinese people implied speech in communist China in using dept to defeat the west.
what? chinese orwell's? where?

Quote:It sets up the false premise that in order to solve that problem the worker should simply work for less and work longer hours
which premise?
Quote:and treat those with less like dead weight in order to pay off the dept. Yet the people who fund this add are the ones looking at the Chinese modle of low wages and no worker rights and simply want to copy their model here.
sooooooo, slavery doesn't pay off our debt too..... who again?

Quote:It sets up the left falsely as feeding China's control over us when the reality is that coorporate greed simply wants to maximize profits
I thought russia had control over us?
Quote:like China does by setting up sweat shops and slave wages.
are there any sweatshops that do not have slave wages?
Quote:It is an incidious add because it uses fear to get voters to vote against their own self economic interest by scare tactics.
how else would you do that? I mean if that's what you wanted to do that is?
Quote:It is a con designed to keep the worker down and pick their pockets at the same time.
what is?

Quote:Another add running also uses that same tactic of fear with the word "socialist".
aren't you scared of socialism? if so, why not?
Quote: It has an old man, who RIGHTFULLY condemned the soviet block he came from and it's lack of private sector.
which one this one?: http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/0...-again.php

Quote: It assumes that all government bad and uses that fear to allow cooporate America to scare the shit out of the worker.
well america is a fascist country you can't expect them to let things like the jewish democracy get in the way of capital

Quote:It is a false premise that because workers want a livable wage that meets the cost of living
which they should be executed for demanding but go ahead......

Quote:that somehow that is a slippery slope that will lead to the socialism of the Soviet block's bad economic model.
interacial marriage is communism what are you thickheaded?
Quote: It uses fear to mantain a plutocracy so that wages of workers, compete, not to go up, but fall.
so? what are you gonna do about it? become a plutocrat too? that's the only way to get anything done remember? or did you forget again?

Quote:If i could talk to this guy I would say to him personally, "Look, what you went through was bad and their model was bad, but you are being dupped by simply a monopoly"
how do you know he wasn't in the the third reich, you can't say for sure that he wouldn't have benefitted himself, personally

Quote:These scare tactics unfortunately work.
so what are you complaining about?
Quote: However, the cure to them is to REMIND people who buy this crap,
it is? im not sure about that?
Quote: is that our private sector did not dissapear when it did invest, like it did to win WW2 and when it did invest after WW2.
are you advocating for a massive miliatary buildup? the rich like building guns for people, freeways and infrastructure not so much
Quote:It did not dissapear when it cooperated with the government in things like the GI bill and invesment in highways and our electric grid and invested in manufacturing that BOOMED our economy from that point forward.
why would the rich want to pay for soldiers AFTER they fight the war? your not making sense....
Quote:BEYOND this ellection, we cannot lose site of this long term. They may have the money to sell this fear, but we have the power of the internet to debunk this bullshit.
thee internet vs trillions o dollars and unlimited weaponry.....hmmm ......... if thats the case.........I think we might be fucked

Quote:It is way past time to allow this fearmongering by cooporate America to continue.
I like it..... fearmongering is fun don't ya think?
Quote:They sell this fear, not because any worker wants a nanny state, they sell it to keep the status quo of low or falling wages in order to maximize profits.
what's profit? serioulsy what is profits? and how does one maximize them?
Quote:This lie that because the working class and working poor want a socialist state has got to stop and be exposed for the blatant lie it is.
I want a socialist state it's sounds cool, are you telling I'm wrong too damn you just don't like anyone one do ya?
Quote: GM is an example of wising up.
it is? why?
Quote:They were humble enough as CEOS to finally understand that value of the worker is important in a healthy economy. There is not one worker who works there now that would want the pathetic fearmongering immages depicted in those incidious adds sold by bullies with money.
GM is better because it took bailout money and liked it? huh okay works for me how's there toxic dumping going...... smoothly I imagine?

Quote:NOW more than ever and win or lose the working class needs to demand that these assholes stop selling fear.
why is more then ever right now? because the president is black?
Quote:We do not want Soviet socialism.
who you?
Quote:We do not want to end the private sector.
again who is this we? not me i hope?
Quote:We simply want to stop falling down further and want a livable standard. These goons who sell this garbage are the ones who want us to work for 2 dollars a day 16 hour days 6 days a week
why is two dollars better then 20 dollars?
Quote:masturbating over China's successfull sweat shop model.
well that's just good ole fashioned fun I don't think we should judge...

Quote:For far too long they have convinced you to give up more and work longer hours so that they can break you and control you and keep you desperate.
who? the jews?
Quote:The good news is not all business is like this. GM woke up it seems, and billionaires like Nick Hanour get it.
what? who? why? nick hanour is that you?
Quote: But the climate is unfortunately controled by not these positive business owners, but the vuture extractionists.
vultures do not control what is alive
Quote:The lie must be exposed for what it is when they try this bullshit. Working people and even the working poor DO value the private sector, just not the bullying and monopolies.
I don't value either stop speaking for everyone on the left
Quote:We don't mind success.
I do.....
Quote:But we simply do not want those above us standing on our shoulders, pushing us down further in a race to look like China and then piss on us by using this sick scare tactics.
again scare tactics are fucking cool and awesome
Quote:PLEASE anyone wanting to spread this OP ED please do. This cannot be a short term issue. Lawrance O'Donnall said it best "I want a government run by the people, not the 1%.
his name is larry that pretentious fuck
Quote: It is time for us as workers to stand up to the bullying and an attempt to create a plutocracy.
create?
Quote:The wealthy are needed in an open market and it is sick to suggest that working people dont get that. But we are tired of being panted as anti market when all we want is to stop getting squeased so that the top can copy the sweat shop model of China.
sweatshops or communism sounds just about right, too me
Quote:Think long term win or lose. The assholes who use this scare tactic have been using this for 30 years
more like forever but if you want to be specific it's around the time all the nazis left germany and sought refuge in the US i'm not saying the country is filled with nazis i'm just saying it's a coincidece..... (cough) ronald reagan (cough)
Quote:so we can cure that by keeping our eyes on that tactic and on a daily basis remind everyone that that is just what it is, a scare tactic. Once you expose it for what it is, they will be forced to that we do value you, just not the current climate of fear.
scare people into beleiveing they are effected by scare tactics, again works for me
Quote:We do want an open market just not one based on lower wages and extractionism.
what about no wages how does that sound? no wages for anybody!!!!!!

Quote:We can win long term and dispite what these assholes sell, workers do not want Soviet Socialism, just economic stability. PLEASE SPREAD THIS ARROUND ON A DAILY BASIS until these assholes scrap their incidious tactic of fear.
no because soviet socialism is better then whatever weird moderate bulshit you want? what is it you want exactly moderatism is that even a thing?
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