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Damned Catoholics!!
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RE: Damned Catoholics!!
(November 14, 2012 at 4:50 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Please don't get me started Daniel. Priest are NOT obliged to pass-on information heard in the confessional..that is what makes Mr Abbot, Mr Pyne and Mr O'Farrell's calls for the confessional to be broken that more poignant.
Um, yes they are. Link.

NT - any person with reasonable ground to believe abuse has taken place.
NSW - almost certainly applies to Catholic priests.
ACT - I would argue that it applies to Catholic priests here in the ACT.

The only state that makes an explicit exception for matters of confession is SA. Mandatory reporting is ... mandatory. The way the law is, if you are a person who is obligated by "mandatory reporting", it doesn't even matter if you're not engaged in the activity which corresponds to making you obligated you still have to report. For instance, a teacher has to report, even if they become aware of abuse occurring outside of their school.
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#22
RE: Damned Catoholics!!
Umm no they are not according to Archbishop of Sydney George Pell

That might be for anglican priests (who have never followed it- from personal experience)
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#23
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ROFL @ "they are not according to Archbishop of Sydney George Pell". Well I guess Pell believes they're above the law.

The RCC is the only denomination that practises confession. It's based on a completely wrong understanding of James 5 (from which the RCC also derives extreme unction).
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RE: Damned Catoholics!!
(November 14, 2012 at 9:12 am)Daniel Wrote: The RCC is the only denomination that practises confession. It's based on a completely wrong understanding of James 5 (from which the RCC also derives extreme unction).
According to ... ?

Don't you just love it when religions are battling each other about who is right. ROFLOL
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#25
RE: Damned Catoholics!!
The RCC is also the only denomination that ascribes Holy Inspired Infallible Scripture status to the Latin Vulgate.
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#26
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Not really mate. I am thinking the Church of England (Anglican) has the same tenets?
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#27
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Well ours are all based on the Bible, and not on the Vulgate. LOL
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#28
RE: Damned Catoholics!!
(November 14, 2012 at 9:34 am)Daniel Wrote: Well ours are all based on the Bible, and not on the Vulgate. LOL

Enjoy being annaly and mentally raped then Daniel.

Lateline 14/11/2012

Quote:As allegations of systemic cover-ups within the Catholic Church continue, Cardinal Pell is attempting to access sensitive information about a sexual abuse victim, before the cleric gives evidence at Victoria's Church Abuse Inquiry.

Let's just traumatise the victim further? You kiddy fiddling bastard!! Angry

What is even more disturbing is the cover-ups from Anglican, Baptist and Uniting churches in and around the Sutherland shire NSW
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#29
RE: Damned Catoholics!!
(November 14, 2012 at 5:49 am)Daniel Wrote:
(November 14, 2012 at 4:50 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Please don't get me started Daniel. Priest are NOT obliged to pass-on information heard in the confessional..that is what makes Mr Abbot, Mr Pyne and Mr O'Farrell's calls for the confessional to be broken that more poignant.
Um, yes they are. Link.

NT - any person with reasonable ground to believe abuse has taken place.
NSW - almost certainly applies to Catholic priests.
ACT - I would argue that it applies to Catholic priests here in the ACT.

The only state that makes an explicit exception for matters of confession is SA. Mandatory reporting is ... mandatory. The way the law is, if you are a person who is obligated by "mandatory reporting", it doesn't even matter if you're not engaged in the activity which corresponds to making you obligated you still have to report. For instance, a teacher has to report, even if they become aware of abuse occurring outside of their school.
Northern Territory(NT) is the only one because it basically says everyone is a mandatory reporter. But even in the Northern Territory it does say (LINK)
Quote:(2) It is a defence to a prosecution for an offence against subsection (1) if the defendant has a reasonable excuse.
I am not a lawyer but to me that may give a catholic priest an opt out clause concerning confessional.

NSW: Where do you get the idea that "almost certainly applies to Catholic priests."? For what I have read it does not.

You can argue all you like for the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) still will not change the fact it does not include catholic priests.

I think KichigaiNeko was correct with her assertion "Priest are NOT obliged to pass-on information heard in the confessional."
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#30
RE: Damned Catoholics!!
(November 14, 2012 at 9:25 am)Daniel Wrote: The RCC is also the only denomination that ascribes Holy Inspired Infallible Scripture status to the Latin Vulgate.

Hey bub, You should stop with the rumor mill. The RCC hasn't subscribed to LV in several centuries! And not in any form since 1979.

The Latin edition of the Vulgate since the 4th century has been rewritten several times!

Heres some reading fur ya: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgate
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