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The Deceptive Mechanisms
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The Deceptive Mechanisms
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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#2
RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
This is exactly why indocrination is so effective. If someone you trusted told you that someone else was a terrible liar, and that 'liar' tried to convince you of something you were certain was untrue (but actually was true) how could you possibly be convinced?
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RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
Christianity is one of the older MLMs still circulating. It would be a miracle worthy of faith if they hadn't refined their pitch to the point of hooks but still managed to trudge along anyway.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
(December 6, 2012 at 1:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Christianity is one of the older MLMs still circulating. It would be a miracle worthy of faith if they hadn't refined their pitch to the point of hooks but still managed to trudge along anyway.

What's an "MLM"?
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
(December 6, 2012 at 11:38 pm)FallentoReason Wrote:
(December 6, 2012 at 1:32 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Christianity is one of the older MLMs still circulating. It would be a miracle worthy of faith if they hadn't refined their pitch to the point of hooks but still managed to trudge along anyway.

What's an "MLM"?

Multi-level marketing. c.f. Amway, scam
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RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
(December 6, 2012 at 11:41 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(December 6, 2012 at 11:38 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: What's an "MLM"?

Multi-level marketing. c.f. Amway, scam

Holy crap! It's so true the comparison Rhythm makes then! I was just thinking about my friend yesterday who has been in Amway for about two years now. He called me up one day to catch up over coffee and so that I could get his resumee off him (I told him we might have work where I'm at). The next thing you know, he's "preaching" up Amway and telling me how he sees so much potential in me. He told me about a successful engineer who retired at 25 thanks to Amway. This isn't even the first time he's tried this on me! Just like a religious person, there's those mechanisms within MLMs that trigger the person to "preach" about their "cult" ad infinitum even though (and he told me this) he's only breaking even financially. So in the face of crappy results there's something that keeps him wanting more of it...

I can see so many similarities between a believer of religion and believer of MLMs... it's crazy how the brain just gets chucked out the window every time.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
(December 6, 2012 at 11:52 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Holy crap! It's so true the comparison Rhythm makes then! I was just thinking about my friend yesterday who has been in Amway for about two years now. He called me up one day to catch up over coffee and so that I could get his resumee off him (I told him we might have work where I'm at). The next thing you know, he's "preaching" up Amway and telling me how he sees so much potential in me. He told me about a successful engineer who retired at 25 thanks to Amway. This isn't even the first time he's tried this on me! Just like a religious person, there's those mechanisms within MLMs that trigger the person to "preach" about their "cult" ad infinitum even though (and he told me this) he's only breaking even financially. So in the face of crappy results there's something that keeps him wanting more of it...

I can see so many similarities between a believer of religion and believer of MLMs... it's crazy how the brain just gets chucked out the window every time.

Best advice I can give if you run into that situation again.

1. Do not break eye contact.
2. Back up - quickly!
3. Look around for a large, stout, stick.
4. ???
5. Profit!
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RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
FallentoReason, have you ever had confidence in something you had no evidence for?
Can you rationalize every action of yours with scientific logic?
Have you once made a decision with your mind without using probability mathematics?
Do you strive to eliminate emotion from each choice you make?
Is everything 'true' in your life backed up by scientific data alone--in other words, does your opinion always adhere to the views of the world's current best and brightest?
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RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
(December 7, 2012 at 3:07 am)Undeceived Wrote: ....
Is everything 'true' in your life backed up by scientific data alone--in other words, does your opinion always adhere to the views of the world's current best and brightest?

WTF kind of definition of "scientific data" is that?
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RE: The Deceptive Mechanisms
An apologists definition. Ever sit back and appreciate how much time they spend creating novel definitions for things so they can argue against something else by the same name? Bait-and-switch, classic.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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