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RE: God is not Great
December 26, 2012 at 10:33 pm
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(December 26, 2012 at 9:49 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (December 26, 2012 at 6:41 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Solipsism What's evil about solipsism? Well, I would want to call on Craig here since I'm hijacking his intro thread and drawing on his use of the word evil. Maybe we can start a new thread about the objective existence/definition of good and evil.
Solipsism is, at best, irrational and morally obtuse.
(December 26, 2012 at 9:49 pm)Tiberius Wrote: (December 26, 2012 at 6:41 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Dishonoring your family In what way?
In a 5th Commandment kind of way.
Sorry. I should have numbered my Ten items.
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RE: God is not Great
December 27, 2012 at 2:58 am
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(December 26, 2012 at 7:37 pm)Shell B Wrote: Wow, loads of atheists enter the thread and disagree with the guy going off about religion. Biblical theist comes in and blindly says everyone agrees with the angry guy. You know, Lion, people like you make it hard to disagree with antitheists.
You'll all come around eventually, I've just been sitting here sharpening enough sticks for everyone when the day finally arrives.
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RE: God is not Great
December 27, 2012 at 6:33 pm
(December 26, 2012 at 4:51 pm)Tiberius Wrote: The Earth is 4.54 billion years old, but mankind has only been around in our current form (homo sapiens) for an estimated 200,000 years. I disagree that it is the most evil thing that mankind has embraced though; I mean, in the last century alone we have been through two World Wars (nether of which were based on any religious disagreement). One of those involved a very evil man who wasn't really basing his ideas on anything religious, but rather social and racial disagreements. Actually, you could say that man's position was based on Eugenics - EVIL SCIENCE, EVIL!!!
Quote:Generalizing. I have met atheists who are homophobic. I have likewise met theists who are gay, or support gay rights. The same goes for women's issues.
Yep that comment surprised me to. Is North Korea really a shining example of "tolerant" atheists? Is China? It's all culturally based, and until you look past your own culture you will of course see things the way they are in your own back yard. This is why the yanks consistently think that Christianity and "Bible Belt" are synonymous.
Quote:Moreover, despite the lack of wars due to atheism, there has been a heck of a lot of persecution due to atheism. The Soviet Union was full of it.
Yep, and North Korea is still full of persecution.
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RE: God is not Great
December 27, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Quote: North Korea really a shining example of "tolerant" atheists?
They are not atheists, their superstition is worship of the state, and to me that is no different than worship of a god. I'd like to see in the future, not that it is defined as such now, but "atheist" should simply mean rejection of any an all non empirical naked assertions. North Korea has it's own religion in their political party and their god is their head of state.
Christopher Hitchens in his speeches and in his books often equated God and heaven as "A celestial North Korea".
"Atheist" is a position. It says nothing about whether an individual will be empathetic or aggressive. It matters not to me that the totality of North Korea rejects standard myth or superstition, their cult of party and state is itself a superstition.
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RE: God is not Great
December 27, 2012 at 7:03 pm
^ No it isn't. North Korea is more atheist than any other country on Earth, regardless of whether or not heads of state are "worshiped".
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RE: God is not Great
December 27, 2012 at 7:58 pm
Um, don't be daft. They believe their leader is a god. Even he himself believes that. It has nothing to do with being worshiped and everything to do with being a deity.
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RE: God is not Great
December 27, 2012 at 10:22 pm
I'm sure if you go to North Korea and ask, they will emphatically tell you that they don't believe their leader is a deity.
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RE: God is not Great
December 27, 2012 at 10:25 pm
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Then we have a testable hypothesis. Who among us lives nearest to North Korea?
Oh and by the way: hello and welcome to our new friend. What do you think of the direction your intro thread has taken?
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RE: God is not Great
December 27, 2012 at 10:29 pm
(December 26, 2012 at 9:48 pm)Shell B Wrote: Frankie is vying for a vote as funniest member.
I thought he might be going for Most Oversexed.
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RE: God is not Great
December 27, 2012 at 10:40 pm
(December 27, 2012 at 7:03 pm)Aractus Wrote: ^ No it isn't. North Korea is more atheist than any other country on Earth, regardless of whether or not heads of state are "worshiped".
Atheist is a position, not a political party or a religion. Otherwise ATHEIST Christopher Hitchens would not have consistently and rightfully condemned North Korea.
North Korea's god was it's party and head of state and just as superstitious. Dogma is dogma and worship is worship. And lemmings are lemmings.
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