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paulpablo · March 4, 2013 at 7:55 pm

I would post this on Islamic forums were it not for my fear that I would get banned. I've been get warnings and infractions every time I post something that challenges Islam. Apparently it's part of the rules of the site that I don't post such things.

The basic problem I find is the following.

A non-Muslim can be more praiseworthy then a Muslim in most actions and spirit and some beliefs.

An example of beliefs is that a non-Muslim can believe we ought to not do terrorism while a Muslim can believe we ought to do it, and that it's endorse by the quran per his interpretation.

Also is it fair that god punishes people for not following the quran after choosing to make them not follow the quran.

Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe.

Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.

In their hearts is disease, so Allah has increased their disease; and for them is a painful punishment because they [habitually] used to lie.

then fear the Fire, whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.

Muslim Scholar · (This post was last modified: March 11, 2013 at 3:28 am by Muslim Scholar.)

You are asking about two subjects?

1 Yes, sometimes a non-Muslim can be better than a Muslim (in life)
but his morals are not for God, so it is worthless
for example if 2 people are working for you, one is very good & nice but doesn't do his job, the other is an ass-hold, but do part of his job, you will fire the first and reward the second (Not fully)

2
You are asking about faith and destiny in Islam
According to Islam God created us, and created our actions as well
We don't have any ability to do actions by ourselves, yet we are responsible for them
It cannot be understood, because we don't know anything about creation or How God do things

We may think it is not fair, because we try to think that creation is like manufacturing
If a person manufactured a gun then fires it to kill a person, he is responsible for killing that person
But God did not manufactured us, he created us
Which is not the same

KichigaiNeko · (This post was last modified: March 11, 2013 at 3:52 am by KichigaiNeko.)

It's OK paulpablo. "muslims" like xtian are just try-hard wannabe jews.

Why? I'll never know but I think it is the elite and apple of god's eye business that draws people in.

I'd rather worship 'The Green Man' Tongue

if I had to worship anything... at least He is fair.

~~Something completely different~~ · March 11, 2013 at 4:01 am

a god cannot be fair.

gods are by definition dictators and therefor lack the capability to be fair.

KichigaiNeko · March 11, 2013 at 4:10 am

Who ever said that nature was dictatorial (in a human sense)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Man
[imghttp://www.runelords.com/images/wallpaper/green-man_3_1024x768.jpg[/img]

Darth · (This post was last modified: March 11, 2013 at 7:32 am by Darth.)

What about Libertas, Justitia (Justice personified), Dysnomia, the pandeistic dead gods, the deistic gods who are off doing their own thing and perhaps unaware of us...

These gods are by definition unfair dictators?

Muslim Scholar · March 11, 2013 at 8:22 am

(March 11, 2013 at 4:01 am)The Germans are coming Wrote: a god cannot be fair.

gods are by definition dictators and therefor lack the capability to be fair.

Circular logic

If there is no God then people are equal and if people are equal then there is no God

the correct statement should be
If God exists then people are not equal

~~Something completely different~~

(March 11, 2013 at 8:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Circular logic

If there is no God then people are equal and if people are equal then there is no God

the correct statement should be
If God exists then people are not equal

And then add a "Heil Hitler!" ?

I really dont know what you want?! In another thread you said people were equal?!

Are you by any chance mentaly handicaped?

Anyway, why did you make this weird reply in which you eventualy confirmed what I said in the first place - that god is a fashist.

CleanShavenJesus · March 11, 2013 at 5:13 pm

(March 11, 2013 at 8:22 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: If there is no God then people are equal and if people are equal then there is no God

the correct statement should be
If God exists then people are not equal

Well, thank God he doesn't exist then.

**Minimalist** · March 11, 2013 at 5:29 pm

Sadly, CSJ, shitheads who make useless distinctions like this....

Quote:But God did not manufactured us, he created us

do exist.

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