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RE: Why are atheists so obsessed with religion?
March 18, 2013 at 4:51 am
I have to say, I'm very surprised by the question itself. Religion is prevalent in the world we live in. Not having any interest in religion or religious discussion would be like having no interest in matters of politics or government.
Unlike the vast majority of religious people, free thinkers tend not to be ignorant.
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RE: Why are atheists so obsessed with religion?
March 18, 2013 at 6:13 am
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2013 at 6:15 am by KichigaiNeko.)
sorry wrong thread... *bugger
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RE: Why are atheists so obsessed with religion?
March 19, 2013 at 4:37 am
I happen to see religion, indeed all superstition as a barrier to humanity fully realizing it's potential. So I want to understand this barrier and figure out how to destroy it or demolish it enough so it is no longer a significant barrier.
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RE: Why are atheists so obsessed with religion?
March 19, 2013 at 6:16 am
if you would look at the posts under religion sub forum you would know that,we are discussing the failures of religion.
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RE: Why are atheists so obsessed with religion?
March 19, 2013 at 7:33 am
It is a bit of a clue, isn't it?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Why are atheists so obsessed with religion?
March 19, 2013 at 6:59 pm
Just today, a few hours ago, I had a guy ask me what religion I was. I told him I was an atheist. This began a discussion that went on for about fifteen minutes. I told him that I once believed in God but over the course of several months I came to realize that there was no evidence for any god. That was ten years ago.
The response was, "You should not need evidence. He does not need evidence. He is above requiring such things. He demands faith."
I warned him that he best not get into a debate with me on god because he can't win, at least not in the objective, analytical sense. Still, he talked about the Bible and how it is a necessary moral guide. I asked him about the Bible's advocacy of slavery, as well as the stoning of unruly children. He told me that he ignores those parts. I told him that I ignore all the parts, just like I would ignore a person who seems friendly and moralistic at first, until he professes his approval of slavery. He is then seen as entirely unethical, which in turn fits with my moral beliefs.
He asked me how I can turn my back on Jesus, someone who died for my sins. I told him that there is no evidence of that happening, and besides, how does being crucified an act of "dying for my sins", especially since he did not stay dead.
I think I hit him with concepts he had never considered. Still, I doubt I ushered a Christian onto a path to atheism. He walked away with a perplexed, confused smile on his face. Hey, I warned him.
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RE: Why are atheists so obsessed with religion?
March 19, 2013 at 7:13 pm
(March 19, 2013 at 6:59 pm)Katiegal Wrote: The response was, "You should not need evidence. He does not need evidence. He is above requiring such things. He demands faith."
The kindness and humility just
oozes out of some people, doesn't it?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould