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Britain could learn something from the taliban
September 5, 2009 at 9:21 am
As some of you may be aware, my hometown of Doncaster elected the first ever English Democrat as mayor, Peter Davies; a nationalist, homophobe, racist and all-round strange guy.
For context: "His controversial policies – including banning the word 'diversity' from council papers and cutting funding for Black History Month and Doncaster's annual Gay Pride event – have split opinion in the South Yorkshire town."
Newspaper article
Peter Davies Wrote:"The one thing to be said about the Taliban is that they do have an ordered society of some sort and that they don't have hundreds of cases of children under threat of abuse from violent parents, as we have in Doncaster."
What do you think? Could the English people learn an imporant lesson about family values from the totalitarian tyranny of the taliban?
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RE: Britain could learn something from the taliban
September 5, 2009 at 9:43 am
I'm in favour of cutting money (completely) from things like Black History Month and Gay Pride events, but I suspect not for the reasons Mr Davies did so. I don't think the government should be involved in any way with any events, and that includes St George's Day, Christmas, Easter, you name it.
If people can't support these events themselves, I see no reason why the government should waste tax dollars on them.
Getting back to the point, I further suspect that the only reason the Taliban don't have hundreds of child abuse cases is because there is no mechanism for which a child can report such abuse and feel safe. We have hundreds of charities and the social services that will guarantee a child protection.
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RE: Britain could learn something from the taliban
September 6, 2009 at 8:28 am
(This post was last modified: September 6, 2009 at 8:28 am by LukeMC.)
(September 5, 2009 at 9:43 am)Tiberius Wrote: If people can't support these events themselves, I see no reason why the government should waste tax dollars on them.
Do you not think it difficult for minority groups to support big events like these? If we don't pitch in to help their voices be heard, they'll continue to be a persecuted minority with very little say. Mr Davies shortly after his election stated "I don't believe tax-payers' money should go to funding any skin colour or sexual preference". Easy for him to say when he's white and straight
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RE: Britain could learn something from the taliban
September 6, 2009 at 8:35 am
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Perhaps to reach a fair compromise, a certain smaller fixed amount should be set aside for the support of these events but for more funding, the organizers should gather the support of like-minded individuals and maybe do fund-raisers or something to that extent.
This way the government still lends a hand but doesn't spoon feed either.
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RE: Britain could learn something from the taliban
September 6, 2009 at 9:01 am
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(September 6, 2009 at 8:28 am)LukeMC Wrote: Do you not think it difficult for minority groups to support big events like these? If we don't pitch in to help their voices be heard, they'll continue to be a persecuted minority with very little say.
Well then, I'd like some funding for an Aryan history month, ahhh what the hell, a month for every race classification out there, a beastiality pride day parade, masterbation month, an annual anal sex day parade. How about a funded celebration day for every religious group? Christian day, Muslim day, Thor day, Shiva day, universalist day, etc. ect.
Just so none of these groups of people can be a persecuted minority with very little say.
Really don't think there is enough days in the year to accomidate every 'group' of people out there. Some will have to double up and share a day. Like maybe the christains and the homos can have a day together.
What a train wreck of an idea. Let's fund an activity of a specific group so they won't feel like persecuted minority. To be fair, you'd have to fund them all. Every frickin crack-pot group with an "persecuted minority" complex.
There exists not an eyeroll emoticon with an eyeroll big enough to convey my distain over the idea that the gummit should fund my group activity because I'm different.
If YOU want to 'pitch in' then YOU pitch in.
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RE: Britain could learn something from the taliban
September 7, 2009 at 1:25 am
(September 6, 2009 at 8:28 am)LukeMC Wrote: Do you not think it difficult for minority groups to support big events like these? If we don't pitch in to help their voices be heard, they'll continue to be a persecuted minority with very little say. Mr Davies shortly after his election stated "I don't believe tax-payers' money should go to funding any skin colour or sexual preference". Easy for him to say when he's white and straight Dotard already pretty much covered why this is a bad idea, but I'd just like to also comment. The government does not need to promote minorities, or any majority for that matter. If a minority wants to say something, they should say it. If they want to hold a massive event, they should pay for it. If they can't get private funding for it through charity, it tells me one thing: not many people want the event to go on. If not many people want the event to go on, I see no reason why the government should go against their wishes.
In short, if an event cannot be funded through private donations, it doesn't show much public interest in the event at all, and if there isn't much public interest, I fail to see why it should be an issue for the state to fund. Double edged sword I'm afraid.
Echoing Dotard's words, "If YOU want to 'pitch in' then YOU pitch in." Simple as that.
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