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Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 9:04 am
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I'm 18 years old. I was born into a Christian family, and I accepted Christ when I was in kindergarten. I discovered porn when I was 12, and for the past 6 years, I've been struggling with trying to be a good Christian and getting away from it, but recently, I gave up trying. I just went with the flow, did what I wanted to do. A few days ago, a member on another forum sent me a PM about a message defending Christianity and Christians (Are you people okay with Xian? It's much easier to type) from members who had been scarred by the Church and saw all Xians as homophobic, insensitive radical conversionists. I said that most Xians aren't that way, but I only know Californians. Personally, I have homosexual friends, and if they want to know about my faith, I'll tell them, but only if they ask, and then I'll talk to them about homosexuality, and how I think it's wrong, but if you've rejected Christ, then it really doesn't matter. So this guy and I chatted for a few more posts, and I started researching deliberate sin and whatnot, and 2 days ago, I decided to reboot my faith. And it went well at first, I deleted all my porn, returned a few items that I'd kept long enough that one could consider them stolen, prayed a few times, etc.. Then late last night, I started reading about contradictions in the Bible, what the Bible really says about Heaven/Hell, various arguments about the truthfulness of Pauline Christianity, etc.. Now, I'm confused and tired. I don't want to give up Jesus and risk "eternal damnation" as some interpret hell, but "destruction of your immortal soul" isn't as bad. I'd rather be really dead than tortured. But I also don't trust the Bible anymore, and I don't trust my religion anymore. I WANT sin.
Now that the backstory's over, let me express what I wish to learn from this forum. Personally, I don't see evolution as the answer. There's too much lack of evidence for me to believe it (and I know what you're thinking: "There's a lack of evidence for Christianity, you noob!"). It seems a lot more likely to me that someone/something caused the universe's existence. Unless there's a fourth option to the big three: Creationism, ID, Evolution. Please help me.
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RE: Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 9:08 am
(This post was last modified: March 25, 2013 at 9:12 am by Joel.)
If you want sin, then you accept that Christianity is true and you're just rebelling against its rules.
If you don't believe that it's true, then there is no sin.
Lack of evolutionary evidence? Go do research. You can not have looked hard if you think there's no evidence.
(Evolution isn't the start of the universe, or life)
EDIT: Welcome!
Second edit: You're not in any better position as a Christian. What about the risk of Allah/Thor/Zeus/Horus/Ares/A god that we haven't even posited the existence of?
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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RE: Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 9:09 am
 Endo
This forum is where you lose your "faith".
Evolution is the best answer we currently have. The Abrahamic religions are nothing more than control of the plebeians of which they take full part. Isalm is a joke of supperstitions melded into the abrahamic faiths and the fact that you are here means that you are questioning... which is a great thing!
Enjoy the forums mate and  from Western Australia
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RE: Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 9:17 am
Hey and welcome to AF! ^_^
Struggling with one's faith is always such a hassle. But you've come to the right place. There are no quick fixes to this particular problem, but I say stick around, partake in the discussions, we have loads of wonderful people aboard here from either side of the spectrum to give you their opinions.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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RE: Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 9:44 am
Guten Tag
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RE: Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 9:50 am
To all (even posts below this one, otherwise everything will get wordy): Thank you for your messages of welcome, I appreciate the support.
Joel: I don't know what I believe at the moment, so whether its sin or freedom, I want a slice of the pie. Anyways, what is the commonly accepted "start of everything" nowdays? The Big Bang? I've always thought that gravity would keep all the mass in the universe together in one big clump. Black holes have infinite gravity at their core, why should the Big Bang Ball be any different? As for evolution, I acknowledge Microevolution, or the slight change of a species over time, but I can't accept Macroevolution at this point in my life.
KichigaiNeko: Mr. Cat, I will always be friendly to those who have religious ideals and subscribe to a certain faith, but I understand that your statement is historically correct as the Church has had a very messed up past.
Kayennah: I plan to do just that, thank you!
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RE: Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 9:53 am
Again Endo enjoy your stay here
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RE: Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 9:53 am
Macroevolution is simply cumulative microevolution. To accept one but not the other is silly.
Like I said: research. There has been observed speciation.
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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RE: Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 9:57 am
With regard to the above, this might be interesting to you: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html
Welcome to the forums. :-)
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RE: Yippee, another new guy.
March 25, 2013 at 10:01 am
Enjoy the forums.
I started to struggle with faith around 10 y.o. of age, its not an easy thing to do when you believe. It was only when I realized that there is no proof or reason to believe in god and all the stories surrounding the religions that I got some peace of mind regarding the subject.
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