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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:35 am
The problem is you're speaking about animals as evidence scientific evidence that god exists but you're getting your information about god from a book that says noah gathered each creature 2 of each kind on board 1 boat, to prevent a flood that caused waves the size of mountains on the earth.
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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:37 am
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(March 27, 2013 at 10:20 am)Joel Wrote: Quote:if God did not do it then who did it?
This is partially an argument from ignorance.
Nobody did it. There is no need to say who did it.
I listened to that part of the video. He never admits anything, or mentions God... Just as I said.
I think you should listen to it.
you call this ignorance while you accept evolution blindly without questioning it, and evolution has been proven wrong long time ago and i posted videos why evolution is wrong.
Quote:I listened to that part of the video. He never admits anything, or mentions God... Just as I said.
I think you should listen to it
but you dont understand the point
YOU ATHEIST CLAIM ,THERE IS NO INTELIGENT DESIGN, ONLY EVOLUTION. and then comes one of the biggest atheists in the world and says, you may find evidence for inteligent deisgn in bio chemistry.
SO IF there is evidence for inteligent deisgn then we relgious people have something to say about it, it is not just a belief it is a fact. and when we say, God created it, you can see it in nature. i dont care about what he says who did it, the point is that inteligent design can be found in nature. and we relgious people say it is God.
(March 27, 2013 at 10:34 am)Joel Wrote: Stop making arguments using quran verses. This thread is based on non-religous evidence - started by you.
so now you want to cut my evidence also to disprove me, you want to put
these on me so i cant debate with you
if i put verses from quran then be sure that science confirms it also. it is not just blind faith.
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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:41 am
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(March 27, 2013 at 10:37 am)ciko83 Wrote: if i put verses from quran then be sure that science confirms it also. it is not just blind faith.
There goes another irony meter
The pointer on this one almost reached orbital velocity...
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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:44 am
(March 27, 2013 at 10:35 am)paulpablo Wrote: The problem is you're speaking about animals as evidence scientific evidence that god exists but you're getting your information about god from a book that says noah gathered each creature 2 of each kind on board 1 boat, to prevent a flood that caused waves the size of mountains on the earth.
but i dont believe in bible liek we have today, if bible was only relgious book on earth i would be an atheist probably.
actually what happen, it was Noah who gathered local animals on his boat, like cow, horses, camels, chiken, goats, dogs, not like elephants or girafes and lions, no no no.
that was local catastrophy not world catastrophy like bible present it.
but do we have evidence for this ark of Noah?
then look this
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/new...urkey.html
THE SUN: 'Noah's Ark' found in Turkey
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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:45 am
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Quote:you call this ignorance while you accept evolution blindly without questioning it, and evolution has been proven wrong long time ago and i posted videos why evolution is wrong.
Don't assert things about me, please.
Also, those videos are in error. They've been debunked and refuted before. Someone already told you this, earlier in the thread!
Quote:but you dont understand the point
YOU ATHEIST CLAIM ,THERE IS NO INTELIGENT DESIGN, ONLY EVOLUTION. and then comes one of the biggest atheists in the world and says, you may find evidence for inteligent deisgn in bio chemistry.
SO IF there is evidence for inteligent deisgn then we relgious people have something to say about it, it is not just a belief it is a fact. and when we say, God created it, you can see it in nature. i dont care about what he says who did it, the point is that inteligent design can be found in nature. and we relgious people say it is God.
I think it's you that doesn't understand the point.
1) He said may
2) I will concede that we are 'intelligently' formed to a certain degree ...By the evolutionary process. Filtering out the weak from the more advanced genetic compositions
3) You completely twist what he says to fit with your delusional view of the world and its science
"You atheist claim" Who atheist? Atheism is a stance on God. From there on, everyone's beliefs are different.
You're also missing that he said even if there may be intelligent design, the designer must have come from somewhere
Quote:so now you want to cut my evidence also to disprove me, you want to put
these on me so i cant debate with you
Hey, man, you titled the thread non-religious, not me.
Here's an article that says that Noah's Ark finding may be a hoax. http://www.newser.com/story/87318/eviden...-hoax.html
Provide more non-religious evidence for your claims.
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:46 am
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(March 27, 2013 at 10:30 am)ciko83 Wrote: so you think muslims did that???
watch this then
and if muslims really did it, then islam condemn them and muslims also, how could muslims do it when islam forbids killing innocent people.
Ha! Let me guess! You think "the zionists" did it!
Another islamist scumbag who is ready to blame everyone but is to imature to take responsiblity for anything.
Well I will be having fun with you. And your conspiracy bullshit will not change anything about the fact that the entire universe doesnt show a single sign of bein fine tuned. Nore does it change the fact that islam is currently responsible for the worst human rights abuses and that it is todays euqivalent to 20th century fascism.
Quote:http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/new...urkey.html
The Sun!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????!?!?!?!!
Why would anyone who had an IQ beyond 70 quote anything from "the Sun" which is the most worthless piece of toilet paper in the western hemisphere!
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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:49 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2013 at 10:54 am by ciko83.)
(March 27, 2013 at 10:45 am)Joel Wrote: Quote:you call this ignorance while you accept evolution blindly without questioning it, and evolution has been proven wrong long time ago and i posted videos why evolution is wrong.
Don't assert things about me, please.
Also, those videos are in error. They've been debunked and refuted before. Someone already told you this, earlier in the thread!
Quote:but you dont understand the point
YOU ATHEIST CLAIM ,THERE IS NO INTELIGENT DESIGN, ONLY EVOLUTION. and then comes one of the biggest atheists in the world and says, you may find evidence for inteligent deisgn in bio chemistry.
SO IF there is evidence for inteligent deisgn then we relgious people have something to say about it, it is not just a belief it is a fact. and when we say, God created it, you can see it in nature. i dont care about what he says who did it, the point is that inteligent design can be found in nature. and we relgious people say it is God.
I think it's you that doesn't understand the point.
1) He said may
2) I will concede that we are 'intelligently' formed to a certain degree ...By the evolutionary process. Filtering out the weak from the more advanced genetic compositions
3) You completely twist what he says to fit with your delusional view of the world and its science
"You atheist claim" Who atheist? Atheism is a stance on God. From there on, everyone's beliefs are different.
You're also missing that he said even if there may be intelligent design, the designer must have come from somewhere
Quote:so now you want to cut my evidence also to disprove me, you want to put
these on me so i cant debate with you
Hey, man, you titled the thread non-religious, not me.
Quote:Also, those videos are in error. They've been debunked and refuted before. Someone already told you this, earlier in the thread!
if they were debunked i would not post them.
Quote:1) He said may
2) I will concede that we are 'intelligently' formed to a certain degree ...By the evolutionary process. Filtering out the weak from the more advanced genetic compositions
3) You completely twist what he says to fit with your delusional view of the world and its science
and why would he say may if there is nothing???
i will tell you why beacuse this man clearly explain it to you
here is challenge to you , let see if you can solve this
Golden Ratio In Nature, Quran And Position Of The Kaba
http://www.gawaher.com/topic/740239-gold...-the-kaba/
tell me now, how could this be that nature-humans-quran and position of the kaba is connected trough Golden ratio????
is this not evidence for you that God is creator of nature, quran and humans?
and another challenge fo you
How could Muhammed know that shoes will talk in future?
explain this if you can
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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:55 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2013 at 10:57 am by Joel.)
You're posting biased, wrong videos that, themselves, have been debunked.
You say you wouldn't post them, but it has been pointed out to you, and you're still posting them.
Quote:How could Muhammed know that shoes will talk in future?
If your shoes talk: seek help.
People can make numbers fit to anything. Watch.
I was born in June, the sixth month.
The year I was born in, was one before 6.
I'm 6 ft tall.
Ergo, I'm 'The Beast'
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:57 am
(March 27, 2013 at 10:55 am)Joel Wrote: You're posting biased, wrong videos that, themselves, have been debunked.
You say you wouldn't post them, but it has been pointed out to you, and you're still posting them.
why should i not post my evidence, how can ther ebe debate if i am not allowed to present my evidence??
it seems i am alone here and there is alot of you atheists here so you dont want allow me to present evidence
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RE: Non-religious evidence for existence of God
March 27, 2013 at 10:58 am
(March 27, 2013 at 10:57 am)ciko83 Wrote: (March 27, 2013 at 10:55 am)Joel Wrote: You're posting biased, wrong videos that, themselves, have been debunked.
You say you wouldn't post them, but it has been pointed out to you, and you're still posting them.
why should i not post my evidence, how can ther ebe debate if i am not allowed to present my evidence??
it seems i am alone here and there is alot of you atheists here so you dont want allow me to present evidence Nothing you've posted has supported your argument.
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