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1984 & A/S/K revisited
RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
@ pocaracas, I'm here to discover more about God through the challenges of nonbelievers, and to date I have and am thankful God has shown more of who He is. God being omnipresent exist here also and in this place I can see God in ways I haven't before. Being here has strengthened me. Surprised or not?

(April 19, 2013 at 11:34 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Godschild is an ex-druggie! suddenly his need for a crutch becomes clear.
Isn't it odd that the most fervent believers are the ones who did the most shit in the past!
You come across it time and time again.

I never did any of "that stuff".

If you're telling the truth and I really do not doubt you, I say great for you, awesome even.

(April 19, 2013 at 10:24 am)Waratah Wrote:
(April 19, 2013 at 8:43 am)Godschild Wrote: I've made my choice, me and my household will serve the LORD our God. it's you that has to make a choice of whether you will reject Christ or not. Your interpretation is invalid, you're trying to claim my statement. Have you had trouble from your youth about understanding the simple things.

Sounds like the rest of the household does not have free will, YOU have made the choice for the household. Are you a control freak?

Everyone in my family makes their own choice.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
(April 22, 2013 at 2:35 am)Godschild Wrote: @ pocaracas, I'm here to discover more about God through the challenges of nonbelievers, and to date I have and am thankful God has shown more of who He is. God being omnipresent exist here also and in this place I can see God in ways I haven't before. Being here has strengthened me. Surprised or not?

Damn you! You screwed up my last piece of analisys!!
(April 17, 2013 at 6:01 pm)pocaracas Wrote: You then proceed to let us know about this entity, in the hopes, I guess, that we find that information trustworthy, and go through the same process you went through...

Wink

So yeah, I guess I'm a bit surprised.
You see god in this forum, huh? I wonder if it sees you! Tongue
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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
(April 22, 2013 at 2:35 am)Godschild Wrote: God being omnipresent exist here also and in this place I can see God in ways I haven't before.
I can think of some entirely unflattering places your god must be "present in" then...taints and asshole creases come to mind. "Omnipresence"..lol. Does that mean that god is present in every turd I flush? I quite like that idea. Is god in the mosquito, and in the malaria in the mosquito? Is god in the chamber of the assault rifle of the warlord, and is he in the warlord? Does god have a balls eye view of every time an adult rapes a child..and is god in the seed that fills said child?

Do you find any of this as disturbing as I do?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
(April 22, 2013 at 5:03 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(April 22, 2013 at 2:35 am)Godschild Wrote: @ pocaracas, I'm here to discover more about God through the challenges of nonbelievers, and to date I have and am thankful God has shown more of who He is. God being omnipresent exist here also and in this place I can see God in ways I haven't before. Being here has strengthened me. Surprised or not?

Damn you! You screwed up my last piece of analisys!!
(April 17, 2013 at 6:01 pm)pocaracas Wrote: You then proceed to let us know about this entity, in the hopes, I guess, that we find that information trustworthy, and go through the same process you went through...

Wink

So yeah, I guess I'm a bit surprised.
You see god in this forum, huh? I wonder if it sees you! Tongue

Yes He sees me, He's been teaching me through people here.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
(April 22, 2013 at 2:35 am)Godschild Wrote: @ pocaracas, I'm here to discover more about God through the challenges of nonbelievers, and to date I have and am thankful God has shown more of who He is. God being omnipresent exist here also and in this place I can see God in ways I haven't before. Being here has strengthened me. Surprised or not?

(April 19, 2013 at 11:34 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Godschild is an ex-druggie! suddenly his need for a crutch becomes clear.
Isn't it odd that the most fervent believers are the ones who did the most shit in the past!
You come across it time and time again.

I never did any of "that stuff".

If you're telling the truth and I really do not doubt you, I say great for you, awesome even.

I didn't move in "those" sort of circles.



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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
(April 22, 2013 at 1:03 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:
(April 22, 2013 at 2:35 am)Godschild Wrote: @ pocaracas, I'm here to discover more about God through the challenges of nonbelievers, and to date I have and am thankful God has shown more of who He is. God being omnipresent exist here also and in this place I can see God in ways I haven't before. Being here has strengthened me. Surprised or not?


If you're telling the truth and I really do not doubt you, I say great for you, awesome even.

I didn't move in "those" sort of circles.

I'm honestly glad you were smart enough to stay away from that life.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
(April 22, 2013 at 12:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(April 22, 2013 at 2:35 am)Godschild Wrote: God being omnipresent exist here also and in this place I can see God in ways I haven't before.
I can think of some entirely unflattering places your god must be "present in" then...taints and asshole creases come to mind. "Omnipresence"..lol. Does that mean that god is present in every turd I flush? I quite like that idea. Is god in the mosquito, and in the malaria in the mosquito? Is god in the chamber of the assault rifle of the warlord, and is he in the warlord? Does god have a balls eye view of every time an adult rapes a child..and is god in the seed that fills said child?

Do you find any of this as disturbing as I do?

I find you a very disturbed human being, probably one that should be avoided.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
(April 23, 2013 at 3:57 am)Godschild Wrote:
(April 22, 2013 at 12:46 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I can think of some entirely unflattering places your god must be "present in" then...taints and asshole creases come to mind. "Omnipresence"..lol. Does that mean that god is present in every turd I flush? I quite like that idea. Is god in the mosquito, and in the malaria in the mosquito? Is god in the chamber of the assault rifle of the warlord, and is he in the warlord? Does god have a balls eye view of every time an adult rapes a child..and is god in the seed that fills said child?

Do you find any of this as disturbing as I do?

I find you a very disturbed human being, probably one that should be avoided.

He said, without ever answering the highly uncomfortable implications that Rhythm raised. It must be easier to do that than to have to say "yes, that's precisely what's happening in my theology," huh?

And Rhythm? Yeah, I find it disturbing. Jesus Christ, dude...
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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
Well, -somebody- has to point out the gruesome side of this omnifiction. I think that most people who believe in this trash like to imagine their spirits using their superpowers for good (making rainbows or some such nonsense)- but this one, this superpower-is fucking ghoulish. If they want it, I think they should at least own it.

Case in point, GC's god -is not- present in those places. He just likes to use the word omnipresent, I doubt he'll be putting his god anywhere I might dream up (and to be blunt - that was just warmup - I can imagine worse...and god must be here, in my imagination as well....along with being in the minds of every sadist and nutbull. He was in Dahmers freezer, that's for damned sure, and on his knife when he made his fillets, and on his tongue when he ate his meal. God rode the wave of pleasure and sensation with every bite, like a particularly complacent partner to every act. A voyeur, sure, but much - much worse.)

The very simple reason that GC's god is not in any of those places is that GC is (presumably) not in those places. God, as always, is a puppet. An extension of ones self. Hates what GC hates, likes wat GC likes. Does what GC would do, refrains from what he would not. God is incapable of conceiving of or doing anything that GC himself is incapable of doing or conceiving of.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: 1984 & A/S/K revisited
Provided everyone believes in the same god as GC, then that god will be everywhere there is someone... in some twisted way.
So it would be all those places Rhythm can imagine...

Good thing there are people who do not believe in the same non-sense... too bad some of those are even more twisted than standard believers.
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