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#41
RE: Untruths?
September 10, 2009 at 10:59 pm
It's a metaphor. If he picked something possible then it wouldn't take faith now would it! C'mon.
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#42
RE: Untruths?
September 10, 2009 at 11:01 pm
What's his point if he can't back it up?

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#43
RE: Untruths?
September 10, 2009 at 11:05 pm
So faith is believing in something impossible then fr0d0?
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#44
RE: Untruths?
September 10, 2009 at 11:09 pm (This post was last modified: September 10, 2009 at 11:09 pm by fr0d0.)
Well he could have said: "if you had faith you could make lame ppl walk" - but then his disciples supposedly did this so that wouldn't be impossible would it.

What would you suggest he picked for an impossible task to make the illustration then? And how precisely would he back that up?

I could eat a horse right now but you wouldn't expect me to eat a horse... because you understand what metaphors are right?
(September 10, 2009 at 11:05 pm)theVOID Wrote: So faith is believing in something impossible then fr0d0?

By definition, it has to be.. yes.
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#45
RE: Untruths?
September 10, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Fuck, as long as you admit you are delusional (you believe in something despite the impossibility) then i have nothing more to say to you on the issue.

As long as you aren't saying it's logical, rational or evident then we totally agree Smile
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#46
RE: Untruths?
September 10, 2009 at 11:22 pm
Nice leap of faith you made there VOID. You're getting it I think!
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#47
RE: Untruths?
September 10, 2009 at 11:36 pm
(September 10, 2009 at 11:22 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Nice leap of faith you made there VOID. You're getting it I think!

It's no leap of faith, it's calculated semi-permanent dismissal of all of your opinions on religion.
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#48
RE: Untruths?
September 11, 2009 at 8:57 am
(September 10, 2009 at 11:09 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Well he could have said: "if you had faith you could make lame ppl walk" - but then his disciples supposedly did this so that wouldn't be impossible would it.

What would you suggest he picked for an impossible task to make the illustration then? And how precisely would he back that up?

I could eat a horse right now but you wouldn't expect me to eat a horse... because you understand what metaphors are right?

If it's impossible that's one thing. To say that this is because your faith is weak, and that it would be possible if you had the faith that's another thing.

And fr0d0, a delusion in it's broadest sense= a false belief. So if you admit to believing in the impossible you definitely admitting to delusion.

Impossible isn't just false as in probably false, or very likely to be false, or almost certainly false - impossible=definitely false. Belief in the impossible is belief in a delusion.

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#49
RE: Untruths?
September 11, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Seems this thread was locked and no one knows why. I suspect it may have been an accident. If it turns out there was a reason, whoever locked it please explain before locking...

Anyway, unlocking! Big Grin
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#50
RE: Untruths?
September 11, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Cheers E. Luvs ya Wink Unfortunately I'm dog tired after last nite's 4.30am stint - and am off to bed. Nite nite!Wink
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