Show me your definition of GOD(s).

[goodnews]

Wish I could cut and past ! Thanx for this effort , however this fails to calculate all the features of patterns ,When Andrew Harris made his calculation he would have used maney factors eg: Allan Poe had a lot more words at his disposal to compile a sentance , this modern language was more versatile etc, { this would effevt the odds } also if you compare the methods used by Mr Culver it is not fair to make a comparisen . If Mr Panin used his method he would have found double even triple the amount . No one to date has met Mr Panins challenge of explaining or duplicateing these numeric patterns found only in the Bible. I understand that Mr Culver has thrown doubt to this enigma, but really is compareing chalk with cheese.

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My opologies to someone who keaps asking about the same numeric patterns in the Quran I have not seen them but did you not know that the Quran is plagiarized from the Hebrew Old Testiment of course they have mixed it up and added and subtracted stuff to fit their doctrins just like "christiandom" all to supress the masses and keap them afraid of going to hell and useing this to bribe them etc etc I AM OUT OF HERE

[Tonus]

There was a fellow here a couple of weeks ago who was playing all kinds of number (and word?) games with the Quran. His user name was something like ckt83. I think it'd be interesting if all of the "I found a code in the holy book" guys all got together in a single topic to discuss your competing systems of mathematically proving god.

And by interesting, I mean hilarious.

[Ryantology]

My opologies to someone who keaps asking about the same numeric patterns in the Quran I have not seen them but did you not know that the Quran is plagiarized from the Hebrew Old Testiment of course they have mixed it up and added and subtracted stuff to fit their doctrins just like "christiandom" all to supress the masses and keap them afraid of going to hell and useing this to bribe them etc etc I AM OUT OF HERE

Your god was stolen from the ancient Canaanite pantheon, so it's all good.

[Tex]

Oh how you dig yourself deeper "Bible code" these are your words ? " numeric codes" your words again ? If you go back and read my posts you will see that I was quiet simply drawing attention to the fact that there are a patterns of sevens in Genesis 1:1 that had to be by divine design as the chance it is a fluke are {one in 7.143} END OF I was in no way implying mysterious secret codes, THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE IMPLIED . Now be a good righteous man and admit your folly

First, I have never called into question your morality, only your knowledge, and knowledge does not contribute to righteousness.

Your "bible code" is numerology. I do not use numerology. It is a Rorschach Test. Read it as regular literature. I promise you, the ancient Jews were not thinking about an advanced code in the text when they wrote it, and we should not think of some advanced code when reading it. It's pretty straight forward and obvious metaphor is obvious.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

According to Genesis a god need only know the difference between good and evil and live forever -- tale of the two trees.

Is a god required to know it is a god? Must it have any self-awareness at all?

God only knows whether god even knows what 'he' is. You'd think one of us would know since most likely it was an idea first conceived by a human.

I think I'll just have to leave the asterisk affixed to 'god(s)'*. Whatever it may mean, don't any one ask me if I believe in this black box thingy. I have no idea what we are even talking about.

If I have it right one can group the gods are superhuman but still human-like with families and such with mainly the spread of agriculture. That also follows the Aryan language group with the addition the lower Egypt images of the gods. The upper Egypt closest to sub-Saharan Africa had mainly the animal images while lower gave people animal heads. Similarly India has a set of people looking gods and a ton of animal gods. If I can find evidence the people looking gods originated in the northwest/Pakistan region then there is a connection to the Indo part of Indo-European. It is sort of a neat grouping.

That doesn't answer the mail as to first decided there were our type of gods but it does narrow the list of suspects.

[Minimalist]

God: First Causer, Non-Contingent Being.

Thanks but neither of those mean anything to me. Both are just fancy sounding hypotheticals.

But the theists wet their pants over them.

[Tex]

God: First Causer, Non-Contingent Being.

Who told you that and why did you believe them?

We've already had this conversation. You seem to think that declaring something true that wasn't thought independently by the individual is invalid. This isn't as cool as you think it is.

However, in this case, I made this definition for God.

[A_Nony_Mouse]

Who told you that and why did you believe them?

We've already had this conversation. You seem to think that declaring something true that wasn't thought independently by the individual is invalid. This isn't as cool as you think it is.

However, in this case, I made this definition for God.

How does one make a definition without personal and definitive knowledge of what is being defined? Define a duck has the same requirement. Or are you saying the blind are qualified to define what the moon looks like?

[Tex]

The blind can define the moon. They might not understand the fullness of the definition, but they can obviously understand the basic concept.

But, people can define God because they can see through multiple mediums. History, life experience, and logic are like open windows.

[Ryantology]

People can define God because fictional characters are nothing but the definitions people invent for them.