The Illuminati

[cratehorus]

@cratehorus I will make research about the connection between Vatican and Hitler. I already hear things about this subject but I don't know if that is real.

Do you know a serious website about this ? I you ask that because I only saw that on websites who was made by conspiracy theorists (except this good website in French language [I can found some mistakes on this website] who was made by an atheist who is not a conspiracy theorist).

there are literally hundreds because it is a historical fact, not a conspiracy theory, try researching real history about the connection between the catholic church and the nazis, with the understanding that the illuminati is real, they are a persecuted minority, hitler despised them, and connected them to the communists and the jews

[viocjit]

@cratehorus I will make research about the connection between Vatican and Hitler. I already hear things about this subject but I don't know if that is real.

Do you know a serious website about this ? I you ask that because I only saw that on websites who was made by conspiracy theorists (except this good website in French language [I can found some mistakes on this website] who was made by an atheist who is not a conspiracy theorist).

there are literally hundreds because it is a historical fact, not a conspiracy theory, try researching real history about the connection between the catholic church and the nazis, with the understanding that the illuminati is real, they are a persecuted minority, hitler despised them, and connected them to the communists and the jews

If Illuminati are real ? do you believe that they are luciferians ?

Do you have evidences about their existence ?

[TaraJo]

The Illuminati are one of those conspiracies that can't ever be completely disproven. Why? Simple: Every time you do manage to disprove them, the people just say "That's what they want you to believe." More specifically, their theory is that this vast conspiracy goes so far that it completely covers up its own existance. I have to admit, if I really were going to run some secret, global conspiracy and I wanted it to stay secret and if I had the kind of influence the conspiracy buffs credit the illuminati with, I'd be going around and covering my tracks, too.

But, then, it goes into the same territory as God there. Just like God, I don't see compelling evidence to believe in it, so disbelief is my default. I mean, if that's the logic we're going to use, it wouldn't be much of a stretch for me to come out and say that he universe was created by the flying spaghetti monster, but he covered his tracks.

[cratehorus]

If Illuminati are real ? do you believe that they are luciferians ?

Do you have evidences about their existence ?

the illuminati are deists the only real requirement is that you believe in some form of a higher power..... so i guess "technically" there could be one or two "luciferians" in the illuminati..... but considering how childish worshipping the christian devil "specifically" is........ and the fact that extremist christards consider every other religion from islam to buddhism "devil worship" I seriously doubt these accusations are real.....

as far as evidence goes......... there are the thousands of masonic lodges that will gladly accept pretty much anyone.....inlcuding you (boogah boogah)..... they meet the first tuesday of the month i beleive........the illuminati is simply the highest level of freemasonry

here's their famous library located in washington DC where you can learn all there "secret" rituals handshakes and passwords

enjoy!

http://scottishrite.org/headquarters/library/

.....be sure to visit their gift store

[LeoVonFrost]

the illuminati are deists the only real requirement is that you believe in some form of a higher power..... so i guess "technically" there could be one or two "luciferians" in the illuminati..... but considering how childish worshipping the christian devil "specifically" is........ and the fact that extremist christards consider every other religion from islam to buddhism "devil worship" I seriously doubt these accusations are real.....

as far as evidence goes......... there are the thousands of masonic lodges that will gladly accept pretty much anyone.....inlcuding you (boogah boogah)..... they meet the first tuesday of the month i beleive........the illuminati is simply the highest level of freemasonry

here's their famous library located in washington DC where you can learn all there "secret" rituals handshakes and passwords

enjoy!

http://scottishrite.org/headquarters/library/

.....be sure to visit their gift store

I believe your information may be lacking a bit of explanation, and this link is really not the bright light of intrigue most folks are interested in. Unfortunately there is a huge amount of MISinformation out there about the possibility of the Illuminati's exsistence so, like everything in cyberspace, you have to be able to sift through the dirty lies to reach a nugget of truth. It is also possible the Illuminati themselves have purposely put a lot of misinformation onto the internet fanning the flames of duality, which would make sense considering experts on the subject have said time and time again that the enlightened one's "divide and conquer"

If we accept the history of the Illuminati as fact, then I believe we are accepting our own demise considering there is no fight against the armies they are creating. This premise would scare the living crap out anyone, so a defense mechanism would be automatic disbelief. Unfortunately the psudeo evidence can be percieved as truthful for the continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati well into the present day, through the inception into the high levels of freemasonry.

If you are seriously considering exploring the subject I recommend David Livingstone's Terrorism and the Illuminati. He eloquently traces the blood lines from ancient babylon to the balkans to europe without losing the reader. It is eye opening. He has done extensive research and sourced authors from 500bc to present day.

As for my belief in the Illuminati I can not say, I certainly have been victim of misinformation and when you add that to the anger you can feel if you are told you are a content slave it can be overwhelming. There ARE certain facts out there that prove the exsistence of a group of endowed individuals that control more than we know.


------------fact--------------
Bilderberg Group -> Tri-Lateral Commission ->CFR
---these people made decisions that shaped our world----

----------fact----------
Northwoods -> Whitewater -> Gulf of Tonkin
----these are actual proven governmental conspiracies----

-----------fact---------
Balkan Holocaust -> Heresy Trials -> Crusades
----religion has been used to manipulate the populace----

Do the research on Federal Reserve Trade Act of 1911 or Colonel Ed House, Banking conglomerates of the 20s and 30s taking America for a ride, there is a lot of legit info out there but you won't be happy if you start believing it, good luck.

[cratehorus]

I believe your information may be lacking a bit of explanation, and this link is really not the bright light of intrigue most folks are interested in.

uh huh........... well first of all i give 2 fucks about what "people" are interested in

Unfortunately there is a huge amount of MISinformation out there about the possibility of the Illuminati's exsistence so, like everything in cyberspace, you have to be able to sift through the dirty lies to reach a nugget of truth.

no there's not..........

It is also possible the Illuminati themselves have purposely put a lot of misinformation onto the internet

fanning the flames of duality, which would make sense considering experts on the subject have said time and time again that the enlightened one's "divide and conquer"

what the fuck are you babbling about?

If we accept the history of the Illuminati as fact, then I believe we are accepting our own demise considering there is no fight against the armies they are creating.

what armies where? army ants?

This premise would scare the living crap out anyone, so a defense mechanism would be automatic disbelief.

it would scare an idiot or a child or both not "anyone"

Unfortunately the psudeo evidence can be percieved as truthful for the continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati well into the present day, through the inception into the high levels of freemasonry.

there is no evidence much less psuedo evidence

If you are seriously considering exploring the subject I recommend David Livingstone's Terrorism and the Illuminati. He eloquently traces the blood lines from ancient babylon to the balkans to europe without losing the reader. It is eye opening. He has done extensive research and sourced authors from 500bc to present day.

im familiar with it it's nothing but overwitten vague nonsensical dribble............ that basically does absolutey nothing but blames the jews for all the world wars over the past 3000 years.....yeah im sure nazis had nothing too do with that?...... my favorite part has too be the part of the book that says the only reasons the nazis lost ww2 at all is because winston churchill used the magical "peace sign" in photos to undo the nazis magical powers from their magical solar symbol the swastika..... yeah great fucking bit nazi propaganda that shyte is

As for my belief in the Illuminati I can not say

that's because your a fuckin moron or a very clever nazi,

I certainly have been victim of misinformation and when you add that to the anger you can feel if you are told you are a content slave it can be overwhelming. There ARE certain facts out there that prove the exsistence of a group of endowed individuals that control more than we know.

no there's not there is the truth and a bunch of anti-semitic esoteric neo nazi bullshit designed to enlist a bunch of paranoid schizos into fighting against the "jewish problem" best part is even if you people kill all the jews.......... there's still the secret jews who control the world can't forget about them..........oh well guys guess we have to let the nazis rule us all otherwise the jews might do something awful

------------fact--------------
Bilderberg Group -> Tri-Lateral Commission ->CFR
---these people made decisions that shaped our world----

so do my balls

----------fact----------
Northwoods -> Whitewater -> Gulf of Tonkin
----these are actual proven governmental conspiracies----

so are my balls

-----------fact---------
Balkan Holocaust -> Heresy Trials -> Crusades
----religion has been used to manipulate the populace----

so have my balls

Do the research on Federal Reserve Trade Act of 1911

no

or Colonel Ed House,

no

Banking conglomerates of the 20s and 30s taking America for a ride

no ,

there is a lot of legit info out there

no there's not

but you won't be happy if you start believing it, good luck.

i highly suggest you see a psychiatrist...good luck

[LeoVonFrost]

That was absolutely enlightening. Do you ever wonder about what kind of idiotic footprint you are leaving on the internet?

If this is a smear attempt it kind of fell short, instead of quoting you I'll simply respond to your bullshit.
So you wrote a post about the connection from illuminate to masons but you don't care what people are interested in.
You claim there is no misinformation about the illuminati on the internet.
You claim the illuminati could not have access to the means to create dissent through misinformation.
Divide and conquer is presumably the way the illuminati will destroy us, if you have read Livingstone like you said then you wouldn't have a reason to question it.
Presumably the UN army is in the hands of the illuminati.
Destruction of our world should scare everyone.
The evidence is that there definitely was an illuminati that tried to incense dissent through divide and conquer.
Livingstone blames the jewish banking elite, but if you can read past your percieved racism it is still very interesting to see the history of the world through his eyes.
I obviously am not a moron.
There are factual instances of our control by an empowered elite, it isn't my problem if your head is so far up your ass that you can't do a little bit a research.
Your balls are just a tiny part of this conversation.
You don't want to research for yourself, that's ok, but please present yourself a little more civilized.
Your pathetic attempt at insulting me shows me that you probably should get some help.

[thesummerqueen]

That was absolutely enlightening. Do you ever wonder about what kind of idiotic footprint you are leaving on the internet?

This, my children, is what we call "irony".

[LeoVonFrost]

Summerqueen, Thanks for your wonderful contribution to this thread, according to your conspiracy skepticism we really should all just stop thinking about the possibility of a governmental corporate cabal controlling us through mass media manipulation and religion because it is without sufficient evidence for you? That is ridiculous, I will continue researching and discussing if it is ok with you.

[thesummerqueen]

By all means, peach...your time is yours.