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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 4:00 pm
(May 1, 2013 at 3:51 pm)Ryantology Wrote: There is no such thing as intrinsic value in economics.
I know that. I'm not sure what intrinsic value (in anything) would be, though. (resources necessary for survival?) My point was closer to apophenia's post in that the government gives it value, and to say that papers bills not being inherently worth what is printed on them sans government is a pretty desperate attempt to justify religion. (Apples to oranges, really. I'm not even sure where he's going with this.)
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 4:04 pm
So... paper money = fairy tale. Magic sky daddy = real?
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 4:08 pm
(May 1, 2013 at 3:51 pm)Ryantology Wrote: Gold is worth something only because we believe it is, and the only reason we believe it is worth something is because our primitive ancestors thought gold was really pretty.
Well, that plus its almost magically incorruptible nature makes it highly prized. Its scarcity reinforces and multiplies that.
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May 1, 2013 at 4:42 pm
(May 1, 2013 at 4:04 pm)Tonus Wrote: So... paper money = fairy tale. Magic sky daddy = real?
Source can't be denied of something its creation have. I believe there is magic sky daddy, coz alternative is - dead matter/by itself/spontaneously(which is a bigger fairy tale).
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Classic argument from ignorance. Basically "I can't think of any explanation for a problem I don't understand, therefore god".
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May 1, 2013 at 4:53 pm
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(May 1, 2013 at 4:42 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Source can't be denied of something its creation have. I believe there is magic sky daddy, coz alternative is - dead matter/by itself/spontaneously(which is a bigger fairy tale).
If this was a coherent sentence I might have refuted it.
In all seriousness, though, why would single-celled simple life arising from non-life spontaneously be a bigger fairy tale than an omnipotent omniscient being existing just 'cuz?
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 5:04 pm
(May 1, 2013 at 4:42 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Source can't be denied of something its creation have.
The taco wants green but bird floats at midnight.
(May 1, 2013 at 4:42 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: I believe there is magic sky daddy, coz alternative is - dead matter/by itself/spontaneously(which is a bigger fairy tale).
As Stimbo pointed out, argument from ignorance.
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 5:05 pm
Quote: I believe there is magic sky daddy, coz alternative is - dead matter/by itself/spontaneously(which is a bigger fairy tale).
So, in other words, you don't know shit from shinola but felt it necessary to drop in and demonstrate your idiocy to us.
Thanks.
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 5:15 pm
(May 1, 2013 at 5:04 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (May 1, 2013 at 4:42 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: Source can't be denied of something its creation have.
The taco wants green but bird floats at midnight.
If weather won't mollify, hereby strafing that arctic monetary, who would your color sound minty?
(May 1, 2013 at 4:42 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: I believe there is magic sky daddy, coz alternative is - dead matter/by itself/spontaneously(which is a bigger fairy tale).
You have decided that there are only two possible choices, you have defined both of them arbitrarily, and decided that one is true, arbitrarily. Any idiot can do that.
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RE: If religion is fairy tale and isn't something to be even taken seriously, then...
May 1, 2013 at 5:27 pm
Either there is Creator or not. If there isn't then our life somehow manifested itself, which goes against law of cause and effect. Nothing can happen by itself, spontaneously, everything has a reason.
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