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Ex-Muslim
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RE: Ex-Muslim
(May 4, 2013 at 6:33 am)purplepurpose Wrote: How dead matter can spontaneously,by itself give life to consciousness?
For example there is AI in robots. Sure we can create robot but AI is the biggest problem. So first, proper AI then body. Creator, human made robots to that robots would work perfectly and don't ask for salary.
Source>made copy of himself. God>humans. Humans>robots.
God made original AI and its called soul,consciousness, personality. Soul is atomic part of Gods own consciousness, its just individual part.
From what you say, it seems like you believe that the human race started out in a flash and was at this stage of brain development since the very beginning of our existence.

The difference between us creating robots and a "god" creating us is that robots are fully conscious, they only know what has been programmed to them. Of course Im guessing that in the future these robots may be fully aware, self sufficient and have their own unique way of thinking. But if this is the case, then they would bee able to see and interact with their creators...which would be us.....we have no way of interacting with a god, and no way of seeing this god.

I am curious as to what your faith is, please let me know.
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#12
RE: Ex-Muslim
Welcome to the dark side... Or maybe it's the light side.
I'm not so sure. Wink
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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#13
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Originated in India. "Sri Chaitanya Saraswath Math" scsmath.com krishna-world.com
In Vedas its being said that soul at the beginning of its creation get one of the strongest body and purest consciousness. But the world where we are is jail or army where souls being trained so that they could archive spirituality, sainity.
This world is being governed by 3 energies.
Energy of ignorance, selfdestruction. Soul is being dragged to this state try pleasure>addiction>violence>robbery>...
Energy of passion. Work, family, sport, art, sciences. Progress, growth.
Energy of goodness. Altruism, charity, humanism - giving, care. Religion, spirituality.
So when soul get body in material world it starts whit passion state and from that point it must choose: convert its purity, energy in to pleasure(pleasent hallucinations) or climb by path of goodness and permanently get in to the Gods domain of conscious serving to God. In Gods domain souls whit each second get more higher from serving God.
But material world is original exam, so its hardest one. Soul at the beginning know about God and if soul chooses to go Ignorance path then after many reincarnations of pleasure its find it can find itself in a place called earth, where it might even live a life whit belief that there is no soul, God. And that is the price for failing exam and constantly choosing ignorance path instead of serving. Thought God still offers religious paths.
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RE: Ex-Muslim
(May 4, 2013 at 3:21 am)homocidlefreak Wrote: Yes I have. My dad is accepting of my decision, my mother....not so much.

Not all my friends are Muslim, so the non Muslims were fine,but my Muslim "friends" see me as the devil.

These Muslim "friends" now avoid me and do not speak to me, I have pretty much cut off contact with them now.
I'm not good at giving advice but I think you should give your mom some time to process it and then talk with her about the reasons why you lost faith (but don't appear as someone who will never come back to islam)
Apropos your muslim "friends", fuck them.
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Welcome!
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#16
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Welcome Enjoy the forums.
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#17
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Welcome
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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#18
RE: Ex-Muslim
welcome, I'm an ex Muslim too Big Grin

if there is a god called Allah, why did he created us solely for the purpose of worshipping him? would it hurt him if we do otherwise? if it hurts then he's not an omnipotent god & therefore not worth worshipping.. another thing worth mentioning, in my opinion Muhammad may never existed at all either, if he did, he's certainly a madman, not a prophet..

as the apostasy law, we the atheists never physically hurt anyone in our conversion, why sentence us to death? Islam welcomes anyone who wishes to convert into it, but aggressively against those who leave it, and it call itself a compassionate religion? lol
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#19
RE: Ex-Muslim
Quote:Yes, I have committed apostasy of the highest order which is punishable by death.

I genuinely hope you live somewhere where you are safe.
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#20
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That was a very candid original post. Welcome to the forum.



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