The Case for Atheism

[JesusHChrist]

Atheist or religious persons would't know what scientific proof IS if it was thrown in their faces!! 75% of you all didn't even take Trig...let alone calculas...maybe got B+ in High School chemistry. Oh, yes I know there's smart people from Harvard that are atheist, but their also religious people too from Harvard. Most atheist replace biblical gods with scholastic ones. Atheist always argue for scientific proof, but most of them don't have the education or psuedo knowledge from wikapedia to know what exactly is scientific proof. Just keeping attributing you reasoning to your scholastic gods because obviously the majority just don't have the brains to for reasoning or contemplation

Jesus dude! Wipe that spittle off your mug and have a nice glass of wine. It will do you a world of good.

You know fully 50% of the population is of below average intelligence?

[Faith No More]

Many arguments for theism fail. For me that raises an interesting question. Does this automatically mean that atheism is rationally justifiable? If not, then neither theism nor atheism are rationally justifiable and neither should be considered the default option.

Well, if we are to lump any deistic arguments in with the theistic ones, since they are essentially subsets of the argument for theism, it is rationally justifiable in the sense that a lack of coherent argument for theism means to default to atheism, because atheism is not the opposite of theism, but the absence of theism.

If we count the deistic arguments separately, however, that muddies the water, and a failure to justify theism does not necessarily mean one defaults to atheism, as they could still believe in a deistic god or any one of the other non-theistic gods, i.e. pantheism.

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Atheist or religious persons would't know what scientific proof IS if it was thrown in their faces!! 75% of you all didn't even take Trig...let alone calculas...maybe got B+ in High School chemistry. Oh, yes I know there's smart people from Harvard that are atheist, but their also religious people too from Harvard. Most atheist replace biblical gods with scholastic ones. Atheist always argue for scientific proof, but most of them don't have the education or only have a psuedo knowledge from wikapedia to know what exactly is scientific proof. Just keeping attributing you reasoning to your scholastic gods because obviously the majority just don't have the brains to for reasoning or contemplation

Umm...fuck you. Your condescending bullshit is nothing more than an expression of your own delusional fantasies, and the fact that you need to result to ad hominems instead of making a rational argument shows me that you are the last person that should be insulting others' intelligence. Try making a rational point instead of writing down every fecal excretion your tiny mind produces.

[ebg]

Big words...whare you lern them...wikapedia on phylosphy? I must have toached a neerve wth you if you took it so personnally?

[Neo-Scholastic]

...it is already understood that atheism is the default position into which we are all born. Every one is born an atheist...

That's an (ethically) untestable hypothesis. You cannot prove your claim. And I'm being generous even dignifying your post with a reply.

[Silver]

I'm being generous even dignifying your post with a reply.

Place a child in a room with access to any knowledge except that which lays claim to religion, and I guarantee that the child will grow into an adult who has absolutely no concept of a divine higher power.

[FallentoReason]

I'm being generous even dignifying your post with a reply.

Place a child in a room with access to any knowledge except that which lays claim to religion, and I guarantee that the child will grow into an adult who has absolutely no concept of a divine higher power.

Arguably, that could lead to Deism.

[Faith No More]

Big words...whare you lern them...wikapedia on phylosphy? I must have toached a neerve wth you if you took it so personnally?

Ha ha...nope. No nerve touched. Every once in a while my frustration boils over from having to suffer foolish assholes on such a frequent basis.

[cneron]

I just responded to your original "A Case for Theism" post.

What you're asking for in this post is essentially evidence that God doesn't exist. This is an absurd request. Atheism and theism are matters of belief/disbelief, not existence/non-existence. I can tell you why I'm an atheist, but I can't disprove God's existence any more than you can prove it. No offense intended, but I didn't find your "Case for Theism" especially impressive. It didn't actually seem to be one, for that matter. You offered no "proof" of anything, yet here you are on the supposed flip-side, asking us for proof of our views.

If what you want to know is why we disbelieve, then ask that, but don't set up arbitrary rules that you yourself don't follow, and expect us to take the bait.

[Neo-Scholastic]

There's more powerful arguments than those out there, but yeah... there you go for now.

Personally, I think your argument from consciousness is the strongest. Did you already start a thread for that one?

[FallentoReason]

There's more powerful arguments than those out there, but yeah... there you go for now.

Personally, I think your argument from consciousness is the strongest. Did you already start a thread for that one?

I think I may have brought it up informally in some other thread, but it doesn't look like I've dedicated a thread for it. Maybe that's next on my to do list...

While we're on the topic, I have to say I'm stumped on your thread about "time blocks". I've thought about it, but I don't have anything of substance to actually post. It's a pretty good puzzle.