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Saying this to an religious fanatic
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RE: Saying this to an religious fanatic
The image is ridiculous because the message is very light. Cheerleader , this word is stupid for a thing of this kind like theist believe that they will pray God for the eternity. Therefore the comparison is for me a stupid thing.
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#32
RE: Saying this to an religious fanatic
(June 3, 2013 at 11:46 pm)Rahul Wrote: The answer I would have given way back when I still believed would be that god doesn't send anyone to hell. They send themselves from being sinful.

God gave his only begotten son to save you from that fate. Like throwing a life preserver to a drowning person. Just grab it.

And my question in response would by why worship a god who sets up a system in which sending everyone to hell is the default position (since God made us imperfect and sinful) unless we accept this Jesus fellow? It's like extortion. Or better yet, it's like an abusive boyfriend holding a gun to a woman's head and saying "Marry me or I'll kill you." Believe in Jesus or suffer eternal punishment. And one could argue that a loving god would never create such a place as Hell.

For some reason, Christians want to squirm out of the idea that God created Hell, yet according to Christian mythology before God created everything there was nothing. Hell didn't create itself.

But God created it and created the system which sends every soul there unless they happen to be one of the lucky few who chooses the right building to go to on Sunday morning.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Saying this to an religious fanatic
(June 7, 2013 at 3:37 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:
(June 3, 2013 at 11:46 pm)Rahul Wrote: The answer I would have given way back when I still believed would be that god doesn't send anyone to hell. They send themselves from being sinful.

God gave his only begotten son to save you from that fate. Like throwing a life preserver to a drowning person. Just grab it.

And my question in response would by why worship a god who sets up a system in which sending everyone to hell is the default position (since God made us imperfect and sinful) unless we accept this Jesus fellow? It's like extortion. Or better yet, it's like an abusive boyfriend holding a gun to a woman's head and saying "Marry me or I'll kill you." Believe in Jesus or suffer eternal punishment. And one could argue that a loving god would never create such a place as Hell.

For some reason, Christians want to squirm out of the idea that God created Hell, yet according to Christian mythology before God created everything there was nothing. Hell didn't create itself.

But God created it and created the system which sends every soul there unless they happen to be one of the lucky few who chooses the right building to go to on Sunday morning.
And again, why are we in the water drowning in the first place? Oh, yeah, because God put us there. And instead of one life preserver, there are many, and all but one will turn out to be an illusion, so you have to pick the right one based on "faith". A compassionate god wouldn't make us unable to swim yet give us a compulsion to enter the water regardless. And even if the inability to resist going in the water is somehow our fault, a compassionate god would simply pick us up and put us on dry land (i.e. forgive us for our failings without arbitrary conditions), not throw us a life preserver that we can't even be certain is real.

Granted, there was a time when the church had real authority and to question it would part you with you property, your freedom, and most likely your life. But nowadays they have to rely on people being too stupid and/or fearful to question such faulty "story logic" (as Gene Roddenberry called it), or perhaps too ashamed to admit to themselves that they've willfully handed control of their lives to a corporation with an imaginary CEO.
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