why shouldn't adults bully each other?

[dazzn]

It depends. if contradiction is the norm, then my contradictions cannot be deemed as "wrong". No more than 7 billion other persons, right?

I still contend you don't get how humans behave, since as cited 7 billion already do.

"If 5 million people jumped of a bridge, would you?"

That's a Tu Quoque Fallacy

How am I exposing hypocrisy?

Look, people contradict. This is the norm. if you don't comprehend that, so be it, that's your business.

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Generations X and Y? Well, I'm glad I don't belong with either of those retarded 'generations' what'd suggest that there are no negative consequences for their actions, or that there is some absolutist morality system by which all must adhere to... because that would be stupid.

What do they call them nineties peeps, anyway? I don't believe we're meshed together well enough to brand us 'generation <arbitrary>'... too many differences. I love the variety, myself

Sociological labels/terms are bullshit?

yeah, the fact that people in our generation had different experiences, norms and social values than those living 100 years ago is bullshit!! lol..

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There never was a golden generation, other than the one that contains me of course.

hmm.. as said a sociological label. kindly prove the concept bullshit?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_y#Religion


lol..

so this violet woman is telling me that people born in the late 20th century compared to 100 years ago are NOT:

- less religious
- don't endorse discrimination
- don't endorse absolutes in any shape or form
- grew up with ICT, and yeah they had PCs and TCP/IP during world war I...

i think this woman is not as "intelligent" as she purports to be.

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I don't endorse any moral absolutes, nor do I endorse "anything goes".

Look, amigo, just reach down- grab your sack, and own your opinions.

Then you're the minority.

[Violet]

Sociological labels/terms are bullshit?

yeah, the fact that people in our generation had different experiences, norms and social values than those living 100 years ago is bullshit!! lol..

Generation X and Y are neither, but thanks for playing.

Wouldn't you be interested... if I told you that it's not a fact? There have always been times like these.

[dazzn]

hmm.. so they're bullshit, but you cannot cite a reason why, or why the sociological community opposes them?

or that human beings are shaped by their environments?

i think you posted somewhere that you're Asperger's or something, it frankly figures:

- you don't understand that humans contradict and aren't strictly rational
- you don't comprehend that we're products of our environment

what next? do you collect toy cars for the sake of it? do you presume all want to know nor give a shit about your knowledge of meteorology?

[Violet]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_y#Religion


lol..

so this violet woman is telling me that people born in the late 20th century compared to 100 years ago are NOT:

- less religious

'Less religious'? Not at all. More publicity for nonreligion? Yes. Has nothing to do with 'what generation' a person was born into, and everything to do with how connected the society was at the time. You'll find that the patterns of social connectivity directly impact who is and is not religious today (how much interactivity the questioning have with the nonreligious).

Gen X/Y are American. Lots of people born 100 years ago compared to 40-10 years ago come out the same as before.

- don't endorse discrimination

Everyone endorses discrimination... and if you disagree: walk straight through a tree. Please take a video.

- don't endorse absolutes in any shape or form

There's no difference between the populations here. Care to clarify?

- grew up with ICT, and yeah they had PCs and TCP/IP during world war I...

Which has an impact on social connectivity, and nothing else. As an aside: do you know what computers looked like during World War One, or what tasks they were capable of? Of course you don't. Maybe you should take a look at the pictures.

i think this woman is not as "intelligent" as she purports to be.

How "intelligent" does she purport to be?

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hmm.. so they're bullshit, but you cannot cite a reason why, or why the sociological community opposes them?

Sure I can... but you haven't asked, and you haven't explained to me how any argument from authority impacts the matter.

or that human beings are shaped by their environments?

Always have been... problem? We all start as nature makes us, then we modify from there. Usually, it's a moderate level of change from the initial state... environments of torpidity have less impact than environments of dynamical energy.

Growing up in the environment of computers is not but a fraction of how much change can occur with growing up in the environment of the internet. If you really wanted to pick a group of difference out, neither Gen X or Gen Y should be your target group for 'these were different than 100 years preceding them!'... you should have gone with whatever the latest generation is called (only it hasn't had a name popularized yet).

i think you posted somewhere that you're Asperger's or something, it frankly figures:

Did I? I may have posted a musing that my mother and my lady-my man wouldn't be particularly surprised of me having Asperger's Syndrome, but that I disagree with the diagnosis on several points. I could go into them, but aren't they obvious?

- you don't understand that humans contradict and aren't strictly rational

False premise. I do understand that humans contradict and are not strictly rational (I make this last point nigh daily, maybe you just don't get around much). But I also understand that once a human is aware of a contradiction: it usually aims to fix it, either by making the statement true through hard work, or by modifying/dropping the statement, or by specially pleading a justification for it.

It's not normal behavior to continue believing a contradictory point without any justification for it.

- you don't comprehend that we're products of our environment

Of course I don't... since that'd be wrong. We are products of life... WHICH CAN BE MODIFIED by environments. The environment didn't make you, did it?

what next? do you collect toy cars for the sake of it? do you presume all want to know nor give a shit about your knowledge of meteorology?

I'll probably hand you your ass some more.

Nope.

Your use of 'nor' in this sentence isn't sensible and turns two separate and unrelated questions into a runon, not that the other bits make sense on their own either. Consider revising, preferably with two question marks, but a semicolon might be better if you believe the two are somehow related.

Answering as two questions: Everyone presumes all they know. Someone might give a shit about my knowledge of meteorology, if their name is Frank.

[dazzn]

lol...

ok, so you have a flair for pedantry too?

UK sociologists also use those terms, what's the point? the fact is that people born in given eras hold different views, based on their socialisation and other factors.

you mention discrimination, well yeah, most in 1913 thought racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. were wrong lol... and it was publicly accepted to be an atheist too! lol...

and yeah, binary, electronics, and microprocessors existed in 1913. ICT is designed to process information, this is what a computer is for. social connectivity? lol... this is why research, business operations, practically all major civilisational process in the modern world are driven by computers. you do know a computer can calculate far greater than any human perhaps ever could?

[Violet]

lol...

ok, so you have a flair for pedantry too?

Nothing I say is trivial... your scope's narrowness only means that you don't see 'the big picture'

UK sociologists also use those terms, what's the point? the fact is that people born in given eras hold different views, based on their socialisation and other factors.

Did they? Well that was retarded of them, wasn't it?

The fact is: people born in the given eras hold views based on a number of factors... most of which are identical regardless of which era the person happens to be born/grow-up/live in. The processes behind the holding of views is identical, regardless of what views held might be.

Welcome to basic psychological and sociological concepts. I hope that you enjoy your stay.

you mention discrimination, well yeah, most in 1913 thought racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. were wrong lol... and it was publicly accepted to be an atheist too! lol...

We're equally as discriminatory as our forefathers were... where one man might discriminate against blacks, another might discriminate against those who discriminate against blacks.

Cool, isn't it?

and yeah, binary, electronics, and microprocessors existed in 1913. ICT is designed to process information, this is what a computer is for. social connectivity? lol... this is why research, business operations, practically all major civilisational process in the modern world are driven by computers. you do know a computer can calculate far greater than any human perhaps ever could?

http://www.ictlounge.com/html/history_of...0-1960.htm

Ooh, history. You do know that it's humans who come up with the things that computers are capable of? Of course you don't... we've achieved singularity after all. Haven't you heard?

Research, business operations, and civilian activity have zero impact socially unless such is facilitated as part of the system (ie: an internet of interconnectivity between otherwise disparate parts). You may research using a computer without any social bearing whatsoever (it is not a necessary part of research); business operations are usually socially-based in the first place, so I have no idea why you throw it out there as some sort of sans-social system; civilian activity is social activity.

[Savannahw]

we all know that morals don't exist, right?

why then does it matter if adults don't bully each other?

I don't know that morals don't exist. I personally find bullies to be immature and self-centered. I think think it is wrong to intentionally be a jerk, but that is my to cents for what it is worth.

[Gilgamesh]

I don't know that morals don't exist. I personally find bullies to be immature and self-centered. I think think it is wrong to intentionally be a jerk, but that is my to cents for what it is worth.

No bully knows their a bully. I've bullied people before and I would only realise it after the fact. But undoubtedly you always heard that bullies are insecure and that's why they do it. Well, that's absolutely true - it's not something they tell you just to make you feel like you got one on the bullies. A bully is just someone who is insecure and relieves themselves of insecurity by putting the spotlight on others, almost unconsciously, too.

[Something completely different]

No bully knows their a bully. I've bullied people before and I would only realise it after the fact. But undoubtedly you always heard that bullies are insecure and that's why they do it. Well, that's absolutely true - it's not something they tell you just to make you feel like you got one on the bullies. A bully is just someone who is insecure and relieves themselves of insecurity by putting the spotlight on others, almost unconsciously, too.

Did you ever waste a thought on the people you bullied? And the pain you inflicted ont them?

almoust 10 years after my expiriences I still suffer from nightmares, flashbacks, and sudden outbursts of fear when confronted with a group of people making fun of me. Other than than an enormous ammount of rage flares up whenever I have to think of my childhood or the people who torchured me.

[Gilgamesh]

Did you ever waste a thought on the people you bullied? And the pain you inflicted ont them?

I never did anything harsh. I am convinced that the guilt tore me apart harder than the bullying tore at them, at any rate. I didn't know I was bullying anyone when I would make a petty remark about someone, then have a laugh about it.

almoust 10 years after my expiriences I still suffer from nightmares, flashbacks, and sudden outbursts of fear when confronted with a group of people making fun of me. Other than than an enormous ammount of rage flares up whenever I have to think of my childhood or the people who torchured me.

Yeah, it's pretty horrible. I only did it to other people to make sure it didn't happen to me. I was/am extremely insecure.