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Do you believe in cheating?
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RE: Do you believe in cheating?



You're very vague with your terms. Cheating in an open relationship is an oxymoron, so I suspect you didn't ask your question properly, or perhaps, you intended the ambiguity so that you could use it to advantage in the discussion.

I think that when you say cheating in a relationship, most people automatically think of a committed, monogamous relationship, as that is the most common kind of sexual or romantic relationship referred to by the word "relationship" here in the Western world. Like any other moral in human cultures, the ethics likely reflect evolutionary realities, and feelings of right and wrong have developed to reinforce behaviors. In a committed monogamous relationship, especially one such as a marriage, you see a perfect storm of evolved psychological mechanisms, all of which are "designed" to maximize the reproductive potential of the individual's genes. There's reciprocal altruism and tit for tat, including a constellation of social behaviors designed to make cooperation more successful than defection. There is sex itself, which results in hormonal storms in the brains of both partners, giving them incentive toward pairing and social behaviors. There are the hormonal and social effects of having babies (which follows from having sex) which encourages monogamous, stable bonding, so that any offspring have the best chance of survival. And there are the rituals, which cement social roles and are held in place by incentives and sanctions.

So, while it may be true that cheating is ethically wrong, cheating is discouraged at many levels because in the context of a social species which practices K-selection reproductive strategies (few offspring, heavy investment), cheating and behaviors that give rise to or enable cheating directly threaten reproductive fitness, so many mechanisms from cognitive to hormonal ally against such behaviors.


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#12
RE: Do you believe in cheating?
(May 27, 2013 at 3:05 pm)dazzn Wrote: i would never cheat.

Why, is it against your morals? Wait ..
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#13
RE: Do you believe in cheating?
The title of this thread is stupid.
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#14
RE: Do you believe in cheating?
Quote:this thread is stupid.

Fixed that for you. :p
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RE: Do you believe in cheating?
(May 27, 2013 at 3:22 pm)whateverist Wrote:
(May 27, 2013 at 3:05 pm)dazzn Wrote: i would never cheat.

Why, is it against your morals? Wait ..

People contradict. and?
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RE: Do you believe in cheating?
(May 27, 2013 at 12:09 pm)dazzn Wrote: I don't get why it's wrong to cheat in relationships.

is it only people who see things in black and white terms who determine this?
I guess you could reduce this to biology, at least historically it took quite a big investment to get a child through to adulthood, so the task probably required both parents to be successful. At least for the man the biological investment in a pregnancy is pretty low, they could potentially have as many children as partners, so they have some incentive (evolutionary speaking) to just mate with as many partners as possible. I guess the incentive for women to cheat may be to have a genetically superior partner who wouldn't invest in the upbringing of her child and then have an unsuspecting inferior male specimen raise the child with her...

However, since what matters in evolution is not the number of dead babies but the number of children making it to puberty, this creates a tension. One could argue that this selected people with some scruples to cheat but who nonetheless might consider it or act on it occasionally...

That's just what came to my mind, feel free to rip this apart if it makes no sense.
"Men see clearly enough the barbarity of all ages — except their own!" — Ernest Crosby.
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RE: Do you believe in cheating?
(May 27, 2013 at 12:09 pm)dazzn Wrote: I don't get why it's wrong to cheat in relationships.

is it only people who see things in black and white terms who determine this?

You're dumb.

Relationships are an investment with an implied contract. Another human has a limited mating window, and they are investing a significant part of that window in you. This is a violation right at the most fundamental level of the evolutionary mechanism.
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RE: Do you believe in cheating?
I'd personally rather die that cheat on someone. So no, I don't believe in cheating on someone.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: Do you believe in cheating?
(May 27, 2013 at 7:37 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(May 27, 2013 at 12:09 pm)dazzn Wrote: I don't get why it's wrong to cheat in relationships.

is it only people who see things in black and white terms who determine this?

You're dumb.

Relationships are an investment with an implied contract. Another human has a limited mating window, and they are investing a significant part of that window in you. This is a violation right at the most fundamental level of the evolutionary mechanism.

There are no rights.
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