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In a world without God...
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Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (June 12, 2013 at 5:02 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not accept evolution period, I believe it's made up science without anything to prove it. Except all the fossil records that have been radiometrically dated to show the progression of a species, not to mention all the DNA evidence. Or are you one of those nuts that think fossils are a conspiracy and that humans rode dinosaurs
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech 
Funny how evolution deniers always claim that there's no evidence for it when we have mountains of evidence. It's as if:
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Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
Then they claim there is a sea of evidence for the existence of God, when clearly there is none.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  (June 12, 2013 at 2:25 pm)Drich Wrote: No judgement was made here. The person being discussed identified that they were not worshiping the God of the bible, and that they did was driven by a personal sense of spirituality loosly based on christianity. Based on how you personally perceive the bible, you saw that her beliefs and actions did not fit, so you judged that her worship was incorrect. The problem here is you believe your interpretation to be the absolutely correct one, and have used your opinion as an objective standard. (June 12, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not think that's all together true, if a Christian decides to leave the faith because they just can't accept it then we have nothing more to say. However in the cases of those here who have shared their stories of leaving the faith an we see that they may not have actually come to know Christ, what do you think we should do, let a possible false belief become a representation of Christianity. Would you do that if someone came here and said they left their belief in evolution because of something that's not true to the science you understand. No, you would jump on it faster than a duck jumps on a junebug.[bolding mine] The problem here is in bold. The most important word being "may." The fact that tell you them they did it wrong despite you only suspecting so based upon a paragraph used to describe a complex system of beliefs and actions that were applied over many years was the point I was making.  (June 12, 2013 at 5:02 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not accept evolution period, I believe it's made up science without anything to prove it. Ever had a flu shot? Ever used prescription medication? If you were my kid I'd demand a paternity test. Oh, wait. Because you don't believe in evolution you wouldn't believe in the results of a paternity test. 
To paraphrase Bertrand Russell:
No rational parent would ever make their children suffer like the god in the christian bible.  RE: In a world without God...
June 12, 2013 at 8:24 pm
(This post was last modified: June 12, 2013 at 8:29 pm by orogenicman.)
Godschild Wrote:...if a Christian decides to leave the faith because they just can't accept it then we have nothing more to say. Considering the fact that there are about 35 million books in the library of Congress, and yet you base your entire existence on one, and only one book, I can certainly understand why you'd have nothing to say to anyone who doesn't profess your faith in the one book. How could you? It is kind of like expecting DOS 3.0 to perform at the same level as Windows 7. Godschild Wrote:I do not accept evolution period, I believe it's made up science without anything to prove it. Then you would have no problem coming to Kentucky and letting a geologist such as myself take you on a day tour of the geology of our fine state so I can show you how utterly and completely wrong you are.
'The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference between a mermaid and seal. It could not be expressed better.'
-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens "I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations". - Galileo Galilei (1564-1642) "In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! " - Dr. Donald Prothero  (June 12, 2013 at 5:09 pm)Rationalman Wrote:(June 12, 2013 at 5:02 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not accept evolution period, I believe it's made up science without anything to prove it. I think fossils are stone.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
I think your brain is stone.
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