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RE: Fucking Cops
September 8, 2015 at 9:18 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 8:28 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: (September 8, 2015 at 8:14 pm)Chad32 Wrote: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
He's obsessed with mining for stories about bad cops. Over one million times cops and citizens interface every year and he's hyperfocused on the negatives. That's pathological. And the quote above is a flat-out fucking line. I post a few links to stories about cops who were bad, without extraneous comment. Because I'm not castigating cops enough I must approve of everything bad they do? That why I keep saying he's psychotic.
Oh, and I have bachelors in Psych and Soc. from Purdue.
I guess I was going with the layman's definition of psycho, then, because I don't think your typical psycho would care about bad cops so much. Unless it was at him. Either way, that's kind of a harsh term and it sounds a bit odd.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 9, 2015 at 2:24 am
Even the best and most dedicated officers cannot properly serve in a broken system. Objective studies of the system, even ones conducted by highly partial observers like the USDoJ, conclude that there are major issues as a result of the legacy of our approach to suppression of certain communities, racial and class-related disadvantages that have been deliberately maintained by the elites in power, and the dismantling of our Constitutional protections in many subtle ways during our pursuit of Prohibition (commonly called "the Drug War"), with its own roots/ties to racist and pro-establishment forces. And no, I'm not just throwing the "race card" out there; sociologists and political historians have looked closely at the clear evidence that both the drug war and the ghettoization of America can be traced to openly racist policies and people in government, enacting laws and methods of enforcement that all but guaranteed the rise of certain peoples and neighborhoods over others... at the expense of the latter, no less.
As has been pointed out, the culture of silence in the face of wrongdoing (and of punishing whistleblowers) negates any claim the "good cops" might have on the moral high ground. I'd venture to say that 99% of police officers are individuals whom I would consider good human beings, moral, ethical, and dedicated to the betterment of their nation and communities... and yet they are dumped into a system that rewards their corruption and/or silence in the face of corruption, and punishes its converse. Our Puritan-rooted love of punishment and belief in those who hold power means that we tend to believe an officer's testimony over that of a defendant, and thus erode the "reasonable doubt" standard to unreasonably low levels which fail to protect us via the task it was created to perform.
This overarching belief in the system manifests itself in the "all lives matter" and "police lives matter" refrain that has echoed back when the community most heavily-hit by the aforementioned history and current policies cries out for change and true justice. They want to be protected by the police, instead of feeling they are in constant danger from an occupying force. They want to be able to believe in the American Dream, in the way WASPs are able to take for granted. When we improve the system for the people on the very bottom of the pile, and show both mercy and justice at the same time by admitting where we have stepped over the line, everyone benefits in the end-- except for those corporations that profit from our mass-incarceration system, the politicians they buy, and the increasingly-militarized police forces tasked with occupying our country's "third-world-style" decayed areas.
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I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 9, 2015 at 4:16 am
I think it's obvious that M is neither obsessed nor psychotic.
But I don't have a degree so maybe I'm wrong.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 9, 2015 at 12:20 pm
(September 8, 2015 at 8:10 pm)Gawdzilla Wrote: "I don't really care what a guy who thinks the boys and blue can kill anyone they want whenever they want, says. "
This is why I call you a psycho.
But I no longer give a flying fuck about your opinion. Give us a few more cop w/ kitten pictures to make you all warm and fuzzy.
Meanwhile, here's another officious scumbag for your to defend.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/colorado...-a-bummer/
Quote:Colorado man ticketed for broken windshield in parking lot of auto glass repair shop: ‘Definitely a bummer’
Quote:The American Civil Liberties Union of Colorado said the incident demonstrates that many law enforcement officers see their role as ticketing rather than protecting public safety — and that can erode public trust.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 9, 2015 at 12:32 pm
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 9, 2015 at 5:10 pm
"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 9, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Yep, and despite Portland (and other larger cities in Oregon) being progressive and diverse, there's still plenty of racism in the state.
That story doesn't surprise me in the least.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 9, 2015 at 7:57 pm
NY...where this shit is typical.
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/ex-tenni...heft-bust/
Quote:Ex-tennis star James Blake says NYPD attacked him in botched identity theft bust
Looks like the pigs picked on the wrong guy this time!
Quote:“I don’t know if it’s as simple as that,” the 35-year-old Blake told the News. “To me it’s as simple as unnecessary police force, no matter what my race is.
“In my mind there’s probably a race factor involved, but no matter what there’s no reason for anybody to do that to anybody.”
Yes...over stolen cellphones.
Quote:Blake said he was telling the story to highlight the issue of excessive police force.
“I have resources to get to the bottom of this,” he said. “I have a voice. But what about someone who doesn’t have those resources and doesn’t have a voice?”
The answer there is that they get the shit kicked out of them by the Keystone Kops and are arrested on trumped up charges anyway. We all know that already.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 9, 2015 at 8:38 pm
(September 9, 2015 at 7:16 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Yep, and despite Portland (and other larger cities in Oregon) being progressive and diverse, there's still plenty of racism in the state.
That story doesn't surprise me in the least.
Nor me. Small town Oregon can be very racist.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 9, 2015 at 8:39 pm
Harder to pick on people when they have money and lawyers.
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