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The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 1, 2013 at 9:57 am
Fter taking power through democratic elections after the 2011 revolution in Egypt, the muslim Brotherhood has failed to solve many of the issues concerning the Egyptian people. With corruption, unemployment and social instability still high, the islamist course of the president and his party hasn`t helpt his image at all.
It seems certain that the Muslim Brotherhood will be out of power soon. The streets are filled with protesters and the army has recently announced that it will certainly not watch the country slither into chaos.
Recently, protesters have even managed to plunder and burn the headquaters of the Muslim Brotherhood in Cairo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjDm91wxqHc
The remaining question still is what will come next?
The salafists also have a big powerbase in Egypt and it is possible that they could take power. A military coup is also a possiblity, with a return to pre revolution social structures. The least likely but best option would be a liberal democratic president.
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RE: The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 1, 2013 at 12:16 pm
One thing the majority who voted in Morsi have failed to learn is that antagonizing at least one quarter of the population because they had to have their religious purity in politics is not wise.
This is an example of one group failing to compromise in the name of ideology.
After all, the pro-Morsi supporters say, Allah is on their side. How can they ever be wrong?
What idiots. All they had to do was compromise a few times and there wouldn't have been a protest.
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RE: The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 1, 2013 at 5:42 pm
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2013 at 5:44 pm by Koldaramor.)
Egypt the 10-year-old girls to marry was the law. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, people from rich countries, such as,
These little girls doing temporary marriage. Sex tourism in the protection of the laws of Sharia, the same as in bangkok thailand.
Never Islam, democracy, and human rights.
Islam is shit.
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RE: The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 1, 2013 at 6:04 pm
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2013 at 6:04 pm by Minimalist.)
Quote:All they had to do was compromise a few times and there wouldn't have been a protest.
Fanatics are not capable of compromise. We see the same with the tea bagging shitheads who are dragging half of the US back to the 19th century.
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RE: The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 7, 2013 at 3:29 pm
(July 1, 2013 at 6:04 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:All they had to do was compromise a few times and there wouldn't have been a protest.
Fanatics are not capable of compromise. We see the same with the tea bagging shitheads who are dragging half of the US back to the 19th century.
tea bagging shitheads, really... Have you personally researched and talked to members of the Tea Party or do you just believe what the state run Liberal media tell you. Not trying to start anything, just a simple question.
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RE: The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 7, 2013 at 4:12 pm
Yeah - my brother is one. He's a fucking racist lunatic.
And yes... he thinks Obama was born in fucking Kenya so don't tell me that I don't know these people. I'm in fucking Arizona and we have these scumbag motherfuckers up to our eyeballs.
Got it?
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RE: The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 7, 2013 at 7:48 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2013 at 8:04 pm by Anomalocaris.)
The problems of Egypt has no practical solution. Basically Egypt can't feed itself, and big parts of its economy isn't productive enough to enable large parts of the population engaged in it to afford unsubsidized imported foodstuff. But Egyptian economy can't produce better opportunities for these people, nor has not successfully conditioned its population to accept the resulting realit that starvation of some members of most people's extended clan should be accepted as a fact of life in this still heavily culturally tribal country, as many other developing countries like India has done. So to maintain social stability, government must runs a ruinous subsidy program on imported food.
As a result, the government is chronically so close to bankruptcy, that no reform could have time to mature without pushing the country into actual bankruptcy, and with it collapse of its ability to continue to subsidize import of food. This will lead to immediate starvation and chaos.
Egypt's problems really needs two things:
1. Massive lowering of international food prices.
2. Governmental stability that facilitates A long term view with emphasis on deep structural reform of the economy
Neither are likely to happen. The second in particular.
If you look at the constitution Morsy sponsored, you can see that far from being a raving religious fanatic bent on imposing sharia upon Egypt, morsi and his Islamic brotherhood were working from a very weak position, had accommodated the outrageous demands of secular military to an humiliating degree, and really was in no way capable of creating the sort of stability long term structural reform requires.
Basically, to keep the secular, US trained and supported armed forces from deposing him, Morsi consented to the following demands upon the constitution by the Egyptian army:
1. The minister of defense must be a serving military officer appointed by the army
2. The army by the new constitution has complete institution autonomy so that morsi's civilian government has no say in its recruitment, promotion, internal rules and regulations, and its deployments
3. The power to declare war and conclude peace rests with the army, not with Morsi
4. The army is the final arbiter of egypt's national security, and as such has absolute veto power over any laws passed by Morsi and his civilian government.
As you can see, far from subverting democracy to install Islamic theocracy, Morsi was always under the thumb of the army. In the end they decided to crush him and Islamic brotherhood like a bug anywhere Eventhough Islamic brotherhood was prepared to cede to the army the power to be a state within a state.
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RE: The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 7, 2013 at 9:16 pm
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(July 7, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Smidgen Wrote: the state run Liberal media
Thanks, Obama!
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RE: The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 7, 2013 at 9:55 pm
You know you're talking to a teabagger when they use the term
(July 7, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Smidgen Wrote: state run Liberal media
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RE: The failing Muslim Brotherhood.
July 7, 2013 at 10:04 pm
(July 7, 2013 at 3:29 pm)Smidgen Wrote: tea bagging shitheads, really... Have you personally researched and talked to members of the Tea Party or do you just believe what the state run Liberal media tell you. Not trying to start anything, just a simple question.
As far as I know the three papers I read are all owned by 3 different publishers, every single one is owned by a privat country, every single one is german, 1 is liberal, 1 conservative and the other one always tries to be totaly objective. Yet one great thing about central European press from France to the Netherland to Germany is that they all try to be as objective as possible.
Anyway - yes the tea party is portraied as the western christian version of the taliban here and I would need evidence to support a different claim.
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