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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:04 pm
ok lets get back to the debate then,
i think we left off here
"we believe in a god or gods..." vs "we do not believe in a god or gods..." are either of these ideas, which are the same, testable? if not than what is the present conclusion on the matter?
sometimes the truth hurts.. sorry bout your feeelings
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:07 pm
(July 19, 2013 at 8:55 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: And once I am finished it will not matter what you believe or know, you will believe however that you have been fucked by a train.
Can I borrow this, Germans? I want to work it into conversation. 
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:08 pm
(July 19, 2013 at 9:04 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: "we believe in a god or gods..." vs "we do not believe in a god or gods..." are either of these ideas, which are the same, testable? if not than what is the present conclusion on the matter? How can lack of belief and belief be the same thing?
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:08 pm
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(July 19, 2013 at 9:04 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: ok lets get back to the debate then,
ok
Quote:i think we left off here
"we believe in a god or gods..." vs "we do not believe in a god or gods..." are either of these ideas, which are the same, testable? if not than what is the present conclusion on the matter?
sometimes the truth hurts.. sorry bout your feeelings
FAIL
How is it a debate when you enter with an argument which you insist to be always right before a counterargument is given?
Do you understand the concept of debate?????
(July 19, 2013 at 9:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Can I borrow this, Germans? I want to work it into conversation.
Stimbo you can take whatever you want without asking.
And you are always welcome 
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:18 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2013 at 9:18 pm by christcahinkilla.)
GC: you haven't offered a counter argument except telling me about you orc campaign and train set kiddo.
wwjs: as far as 'how is a lack of belief the same as a belief?'... well that's not easy but I will try,
in my opinion, there is a difference between a lack of belief, which is a form of idea based on belief and the principle of admitting you don't know something if you don't.
if I said "I do not believe hitlers train will fuck me" i am acerting something that i believe,
if I said "I do not know if hitlers train will fuck me" I am saying something different.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:22 pm
(July 19, 2013 at 9:18 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: wwjs: as far as 'how is a lack of belief the same as a belief?'... well that's not easy but I will try,
in my opinion, there is a difference between a lack of belief, which is a form of idea based on belief and the principle of admitting you don't know something if you don't.
if I said "I do not believe hitlers train will fuck me" i am acerting something that i believe,
if I said "I do not know if hitlers train will fuck me" I am saying something different. Sorry but that makes no sense.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:22 pm
(July 19, 2013 at 9:18 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: GC: you haven't offered a counter argument except telling me about you orc campaign and train set kiddo.
I did.
I explained why there is no such thing as atheist dogma.
I explained that I dont know how life came into existance but strive to know.
And you havent delivered any counterargument, but piked little stuff from when I lost my patience with the shit you posted to create the delusion for yourself that you had some kind of highground. I do not doubt that you will probably pull the same nonsence here.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:27 pm
(This post was last modified: July 19, 2013 at 9:28 pm by Cyberman.)
(I'm giving you another chance just 'cos I'm a nice guy.)
(July 19, 2013 at 9:18 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote:
So you're conflating belief with knowledge? Now I think I can see where the confusion lies.
Now...
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At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:29 pm
well i guess i missed your arguments in all of the threats and personal insults, lets try again,
how is a belief that no god or gods existing not dogmatic if the idea is not testable by today's level of reason?
and congratulations to you for admitting that you don't know how life came into existence, there are over 3 billion religious people that are not there yet.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
July 19, 2013 at 9:29 pm
(July 19, 2013 at 5:08 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: Chas Wrote:We do, in fact, know that is true given the preponderance of evidence.
It is a scientific theory that is repeatedly tested and succeeds.
lol the 'big bang' theory has been tested and proven? damn i missed it..
The Big Bang has nothing to do with evolution.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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