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Blind faith and evolution
RE: Blind faith and evolution
Enrico, go do yoga, please.
ronedee Wrote:Science doesn't have a good explaination for water

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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(August 5, 2013 at 9:35 am)enrico Wrote: Can't you be a bit original instead of repeating other people words?

You do realize that all words have been used at some point or another by someone else?

Quote:C'on put a bit of effort so i will give you some kudos.

Dude, I have enough kudoses without you. Mine: 4772 times in 1947 posts. Yours: 10 times in 10 posts. What, you jelly?
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(August 5, 2013 at 9:51 am)enrico Wrote:
(August 5, 2013 at 9:07 am)enrico Wrote: There got to be some consciousness in the worm otherwise how could he move and follow his ways around.

BadWriterSparty Wrote:By this ill-informed logic, there must be a consciousness in certain plants too.

Sure there is otherwise the climbers wouldn't bother to move around looking for better condition to prosper.

Botanists understand how exactly these plants can move, and, the fun part is, there is no consciousness necessary. Next please.

ricorico Wrote:You show me that the science say that worms are robot and i will make you pope.Smile

Who are you and what does your Pope-making authority entail? Are you Zombie Christ?

rico Wrote:As far as the worm does not like to be crushed and mashed then it means that consciousness is there.

Do you have to make a conscious effort to breathe, or does your body do it for you automatically? The reason so many people drown is because an automatic reflex of the body is to draw in huge gulps of air when the flow of oxygen is cut off from the lungs. Our stupid human bodies are what kill us in these situations, and this is all done without having to make a single conscious thought.

So...when a worm begins to squirm because their nervous system goes into shock, are they consciously trying to avoid being squished, or are automatic reflexes kicking in? Perhaps you should read up on that before you make your fallacious analogies.

enricky Wrote:Nobody choose to go through the trouble of creation and evolution.
Everybody consciousness would like to be home where they belong.Angel

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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(August 5, 2013 at 9:07 am)enrico Wrote:
Chas Wrote:What do you mean "someone born as a worm"?


There got to be some consciousness in the worm otherwise how could he move and follow his ways around.
Without consciousness you are a robot but a worm is not a robot so this consciousness show that he is someone.

Quote:Please read a science book. Please.


Does a science book say that a worm is a robot?ROFLOL

So...

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Can't...

Contain...


RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!

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(August 5, 2013 at 12:44 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: Enrico, go do yoga, please.

Whoa! Hold on there just a second! Yoga is a sacred art form that can only be truly understood in combination with the scripture of the Church of the Yogage. Please refrain from sending crazy folk to my church.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(August 5, 2013 at 1:28 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Botanists understand how exactly these plants can move, and, the fun part is, there is no consciousness necessary. Next please.


Botanist study physical science not intuitional science so it will be quite difficult to know what is outside their competency.
Oh, by the way if you know for sure all about consciousness can you tell me at what stage in the evolution it is manifested.
If as you say is not in manifested in plants where is it?
In some animals? In the human beings? Nowhere?Thinking

Quote:Who are you and what does your Pope-making authority entail? Are you Zombie Christ?


Smile


Quote:Do you have to make a conscious effort to breathe, or does your body do it for you automatically? The reason so many people drown is because an automatic reflex of the body is to draw in huge gulps of air when the flow of oxygen is cut off from the lungs. Our stupid human bodies are what kill us in these situations, and this is all done without having to make a single conscious thought.
So...when a worm begins to squirm because their nervous system goes into shock, are they consciously trying to avoid being squished, or are automatic reflexes kicking in? Perhaps you should read up on that before you make your fallacious analogies.


Analogies?
You are comparing the more advanced consciousness of a human being with a primitive consciousness of a worm?
Anyway you stated that..........their nervous system goes into shock..........how do you know that is the nervous system that goes into shock and not the consciousness?
Does the car goes into shock when there is an accident or the driver goes into shock?
You just said that the nervous system goes into shock when in reality is the worm going into shock.
What a disaster!!!
It would help if you could read some of Darwin intuition.
Is not that i fully agree with him but in something i do agree.
http://colinallen.dnsalias.org/Secure/TC...-final.pdf


enricky Wrote:Nobody choose to go through the trouble of creation and evolution.
Everybody consciousness would like to be home where they belong.Angel

Quote:Poe. I don't remember who said it first, but I'm calling it again


If somebody said that first i will fully agree with him.Angel
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(August 6, 2013 at 9:00 am)enrico Wrote: Botanist study physical science not intuitional science so it will be quite difficult to know what is outside their competency.

What the actual fuck is "intuitional science"?
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(August 6, 2013 at 9:34 am)Chas Wrote: What the actual fuck is "intuitional science"?

I suspect that it's one of those sciences that studies things that cannot be studied.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(August 6, 2013 at 9:00 am)enrico Wrote: Botanist study physical science not intuitional science so it will be quite difficult to know what is outside their competency.

Where can I go to study this "intuitional science?"

What are the chances that, if I tried to get a job in a lab based on my knowledge of intuitional science, I will get laughed right off the fucking planet and into space, where the stars will laugh at my lifeless body eternally, because of the shit I tried to pull?
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(August 6, 2013 at 9:38 am)Tonus Wrote:
(August 6, 2013 at 9:34 am)Chas Wrote: What the actual fuck is "intuitional science"?

I suspect that it's one of those sciences that studies things that cannot be studied.

I keep trying to imagine an experiment where you gather the results intuitionally. Seems like it might be awfully hard to avoid personal bias in such an arrangement.

But let me set aside my own imagination and intuition for the moment and just ask for clarification. What is intuitional science and what about it makes it "science"? Does it make use of the scientific method?
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