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Blind faith and evolution
RE: Blind faith and evolution
And not a single rebuttal is to be found. Can someone ban this guy, he has to be a troll. I find it hard to believe that anyone can be this stupid
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(September 1, 2013 at 8:00 am)Rationalman Wrote: And not a single rebuttal is to be found. Can someone ban this guy, he has to be a troll. I find it hard to believe that anyone can be this stupid

Oh, i see.
You try to burn me at the stakes just because you are stuck in the corral of dogmas of total ignorance?
Your physical science can not explain what is over this universe so you try to tell those who have gone over that they are stupid.
How sad!!!
After million years of evolution you are still floating in this dogma.BangheadBangheadBanghead
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(September 1, 2013 at 8:43 am)enrico Wrote: Your physical science can not explain what is over this universe

Neither can anything you have to say. At least scientists are actively trying to find that out and look for answers. You are intellectually lazy.
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain

'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House

“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom

"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(August 29, 2013 at 9:11 am)enrico Wrote:
Quote:Liar. He never said Evolution is the opposite of linear. He said it is not linear
Eh, linear is a latin word and it means a straight line so when we talk about evolution that does not follow a straight line we also mean a way of proceeding that is not consistent with following the same path.
When you travel with your car from point A to point B you (unless you are an idiot) you follow the straight possible path in order to reach your goal.
If not we can say that your way of proceeding is chaotic and that is what i said.
Wow...
Really?

Not-linear and chaotic do not mean the same thing in the slightest.

Undecided
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(September 1, 2013 at 9:08 am)Rationalman Wrote:
(September 1, 2013 at 8:43 am)enrico Wrote: Your physical science can not explain what is over this universe

Neither can anything you have to say. At least scientists are actively trying to find that out and look for answers. You are intellectually lazy.

Again you are floating in the dogma.BangheadBangheadBanghead
Your scientists are studying PHYSICAL science which has nothing to do with the science that goes over the physical reality.

(September 1, 2013 at 9:21 am)LostLocke Wrote: Wow...
Really?

Not-linear and chaotic do not mean the same thing in the slightest.
Undecided


So in order to go from NY to LA you go through Miami and Denver instead to follow a straight line that connect NY to LA (linear journey) and then you say that your journey is not chaotic.Thinking
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If I intentionally stopped in Denver or Miami on my way to LA from NY, then no, that's not chaotic.

If you try to drive in a straight line from NY to LA it will become very chaotic the moment you hit something. It's physically impossible to drive perfectly straight from NY to LA. You have to make turns along the way.
So the act of turning in and of itself does not imply chaos. If it does then everyone is driving chaotically all the time.
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(September 1, 2013 at 8:43 am)enrico Wrote: You try to burn me at the stakes just because you are stuck in the corral of dogmas of total ignorance?

I'm close to burning you at the stake for real.
ronedee Wrote:Science doesn't have a good explaination for water

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RE: Blind faith and evolution
(September 1, 2013 at 9:43 am)enrico Wrote: Again you are floating in the dogma.BangheadBangheadBanghead
Your scientists are studying PHYSICAL science which has nothing to do with the science that goes over the physical reality

If we accept that science is the observation and study of the universe, then what other observable part of the universe is there, apart from the “physical” one? You’re basically proclaiming science a failing for not addressing something it is not meant to nor can it ever address. That doesn’t quite seem fair, does it?
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(September 1, 2013 at 8:19 pm)trekky0623 Wrote:
(September 1, 2013 at 9:43 am)enrico Wrote: Again you are floating in the dogma.BangheadBangheadBanghead
Your scientists are studying PHYSICAL science which has nothing to do with the science that goes over the physical reality

If we accept that science is the observation and study of the universe, then what other observable part of the universe is there, apart from the “physical” one?


Nothing wrong with it.
Physical science is doing his job ok., but is not with physical science that you can understand other types of science.

Quote:You’re basically proclaiming science a failing for not addressing something it is not meant to nor can it ever address. That doesn’t quite seem fair, does it?


You are saying this.
You are saying that PHYSICAL science is failing.
I am not saying that.
Considering that your notions and your knowledge are limited to PHYSICAL science you can not perceive that something else other than the physical aspect is there.
You choose to stick with the physical aspect therefore you lock yourself in the corral of this aspect alone.
As i already said previously if you want to know something you got to have the desire for that thing.
If you want to find a lover you got to go and look for.
If you expect that the lover come knocking at your door and say.........hello darling i felt that you were looking for me so here i am.
That is NOT how the whole system works.
If you want to know or get what you need you got to go and look for.
In other words if you want to know whether there is something else other then the physical aspect then you will have to have the desire for that thing and that also involve to exist the corral of your dogma that there is nothing other then the physical aspect.Cool Shades

(September 1, 2013 at 10:23 am)LostLocke Wrote: If I intentionally stopped in Denver or Miami on my way to LA from NY, then no, that's not chaotic.

If you try to drive in a straight line from NY to LA it will become very chaotic the moment you hit something. It's physically impossible to drive perfectly straight from NY to LA. You have to make turns along the way.
So the act of turning in and of itself does not imply chaos. If it does then everyone is driving chaotically all the time.

It look like you try to twist my words.
I am not talking about accidents that can occur along the way or the fact that you intentionally want to stop here and there along the way.
I am talking about trying to go through the most linear way or instead not knowing how to proceed and therefore turning something that make sense into something that doesn't.
So this confusion can be called Chaos.Wink Shades
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RE: Blind faith and evolution
You don't get it. There is no other science besides “physical” science because science requires observation. If you cannot observe something, it cannot be scientifically examined or studied. So again, what other kinds of science is there?

And looking for something other than the “physical” won't work. By definition, anything beyond the natural universe is supernatural. If it is not part of the “physical,” natural universe, it cannot be observed by us, and it is not science. Period.
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