Time For Whites To Wake Up

[Faith No More]

ABSOLUTELY!

Would you say that non-white people shouldn't complain as well then? As in theory, it just 'furthers the attitude that we are somehow defined by our race'?

It depends on the severity of the situation. If districts are being gerrymandered to weaken the Hispanic vote, then that is a valid complaint. White people do not experience that level of racism in the U.S.

Telling black people to be proud of being black, however, only exacerbates the situation, in my opinion.

[Napoléon]

It depends on the severity of the situation. If districts are being gerrymandered to weaken the Hispanic vote, then that is a valid complaint. White people do not experience that level of racism in the U.S.

Telling black people to be proud of being black, however, only exacerbates the situation, in my opinion.

Yep, I have to agree with you. Best thing people can honestly do is shut the fuck up about 'race'. Anyone else seen that morgan freeman video?

Truth is, it's never gonna happen though. At least I don't think in my lifetime it will.

[A Theist]

Yes. Especially when your posts reflect your ignorance. You don't know anything about the South.

You're "Hopeless"

As expected you refuse to answere to the rest of my post.

Either you do not have the braincells to do so.
Or you are to lazy.

Either way, it proves that you are nothing but a dogmatic little angry dog who is incapable of participating in a debate and only manages to repeat the talkingpoints he heard without being able to justify or even explain them and how they stand in reality.

I have not displayed any ignorance of anykind, I have presented my honest opinion on the subject of stereotyps. I presented counters which you and your southern brain refuse to answere. In fact, you simply decalre me to be wrong and irrelevant, without showing why and then take refuge into answereing the replies of others.

It is an irony to see people complain about southern stereotyps and then see that very stereotyp jump up into the debate to be..........

a southern stereotype.

I dont think it is worth replying to you in this thread anymore, you are unwilling to present counters and to reply properly to arguments and what the hell am I suposed to learn here from you other than how to fuck animals and close relatives.

I have not displayed any ignorance of anykind,

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[Anomalocaris]

Telling black people to be proud of being black, however, only exacerbates the situation, in my opinion.

On the margins, telling people to be proud of something that is not the result of their own purposed personal accomplishment, such as their ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, is always capable of generating a bad situation where none existed, and worsening a bad situation where one already exists.

However, this has to be balanced against the fact that prejudices almost by definition targets attributes of the victim that is not the result of their own personal accomplishment. Prejudice has the effect of making people feel debased by attributes which are not of their own doing.

In a society with continuing inequities stamming from from past and present prejudices, motivating people to be proud of a specific attribute which had been at the root of the prejudices directed at them, may be on the whole a necessary corrective for that debasement.

[Something completely different]

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Why? You need to jerk off now?!

I am merely devolving myself onto a level of on which my expressions should be understandable for a halfwit like you.

[Red Celt]

It does make me laugh when I see Tiberius giving kudos to such ridiculous posts as that.

Lol...and it made me laugh to see Tiberius hand your ass to you over your ridiculous posts.

Still banging on about that? When someone makes too many invalid points in a single post... sometimes... I ignore the whole thing, rather than spend all that time showing them how stupid they are. Life is just utterly too short. I do the exact same thing with the vast majority of what you ejaculate on the forum.

Under that cloth cap is tin foil. Lots of tin foil.

[Faith No More]

On the margins, telling people to be proud of something that is not the result of their own purposed personal accomplishment, such as their ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation, is always capable of generating a bad situation where none existed, and worsening a bad situation where one already exists.

However, this has to be balanced against the fact that prejudices almost by definition targets attributes of the victim that is not the result of their own personal accomplishment. Prejudice has the effect of making people feel debased by attributes which are not of their own doing.

In a society with continuing inequities stamming from from past and present prejudices, motivating people to be proud of a specific attribute which had been at the root of the prejudices directed at them, may be on the whole a necessary corrective for that debasement.

Yeah, I understand that it's more of a reaction to the marginilization they've suffered, and I don't deny that in the past it was definitely beneficial to be proud of a trait that others held against you even though you are not responsible for said trait. I think now, however, it's gotten to the point where being proud of your race can be detrimental to the cause of equality. Instead of being proud to be black, I think it would be more pragmatic to say that being black is inconsequential to your self-identity. I do realize, however, that is hard when society is constantly identifying you by your skin color, but I think if we want to prevent that from happening, the best course of action is to downplay the importantance of race as a trait.

[Tiberius]

Your story doesn't reflect any systematic oppression like minorities face. You were teased. Big fucking deal.

Whilst his situation doesn't reflect systematic oppression on the scale of other forms of racism, your comment seems to suggest that you believe some forms of racism are fine. I disagree; I think every single form of racism is utterly wrong. It doesn't matter if we are talking about beating up a person because of their skin color, or teasing a person for it.

So yes, ironically your last sentence rings true, just not in the way you meant it. All racism is a big fucking deal and should not go unnoticed just because it doesn't happen "systematically".

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I don't deny that there is racism on both sides. Complaining about racism against whites, however, does nothing to solve the problem and only furthers the attitude that we are somehow defined by our race, instead of trying to put forth the idea that we are first and foremost humans.

Whilst I agree with you on principle, our society currently functions by addressing racism against non-whites, and seemingly ignoring racism against whites. In an ideal world, we should strive to see each other as humans before anything else, but until we reach that point, we can't just ignore things that get in the way of that ideal.

[FlyingNarwhal]

[A Theist]