The fact that both lineages contradict each other should be a red flag anyway.
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Proof of Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 5:25 pm
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2013 at 5:29 pm by fr0d0.)
BWS if you looked into it only briefly you'd see it all explained. Matthew lays down the royal lineage passed through the male line. Luke lays down the female blood line. The two together prove the lineage of title and blood.
They can't be the same, because one fooled females and the other males. Look at the link I provided, it's all explained. It's called the line of Jesus through Joseph because that's just the way these things are referred to. Why is Mary's line in Luke full of females and Matthews names male? Of course if you want to hold on to your comedic line be my guest. You can't say that you don't also know the actual answer. (August 12, 2013 at 3:07 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: In any case, it says the line of Joseph in both books so you're still incorrect. I'm incorrect how? I never say it didn't say Joseph. I said that the text supports Jesus lineage and right to qualify as messiah, as Nora denied. One is the line of Joseph, the other Mary. That much is Crystal clear. 
I know that it's in a storybook, so the lineages may as well be forgeries anyway.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
Right so that's the best you can do for a retraction. Nice.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
This reminds me of the argument I had with my friend about Harry potter. I said Hagrid's hippogriff was called Buckbeak and my friend was convinced it was called Witherwings. Turns out we were both right because Buckbeak was re-christened Witherwings after Sirious died and Hagrid took him back.
The point is: it doesn't matter, its a work of fiction
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Proof of Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 5:41 pm
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2013 at 5:42 pm by fr0d0.)
Yeah nice cop out ration. is no one honest enough to admit that they were wrong here? Come on guys grow some balls.
You mean bringing up a good point is a cop out?
  (August 12, 2013 at 5:41 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Yeah nice cop out ration. is no one honest enough to admit that they were wrong here? Come on guys grow some balls. Are you not honest enough to admit that the twisted logic of those apologetics is not credible? I suppose if I put all my change in my left pocket, turn my hat around backwards, stand on one leg, tilt my head, and squint hard enough ... Nope. Not even then.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Proof of Christianity
August 12, 2013 at 6:22 pm
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2013 at 6:24 pm by fr0d0.)
(August 12, 2013 at 5:47 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: You mean bringing up a good point is a cop out? Still dodging then. How genuine of you. If this was me some bleating dimbo would be crying into their earl grey about how they were disappointed in me and could never trust me again or some such bullshit. Double standards. gotta love em. Next you'll be arguing how moral you are. |
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