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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 10:23 am
One gets a full grasp of GC's reasoning capabilities when he claims an omnipotent god doesn't want to send people to hell but does so anyway.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 10:24 am
(August 12, 2013 at 9:07 am)Maelstrom Wrote: (August 12, 2013 at 1:38 am)Godschild Wrote: The Holy Spirit is my sight when it comes to scripture and other spiritual matters.
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What if the Holy Spirit is really a demon of satan, fooling you?
Oooh ohh..I know I know! Pick me, pick ME!!!
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 2:44 pm
(August 12, 2013 at 10:23 am)Faith No More Wrote: One gets a full grasp of GC's reasoning capabilities when he claims an omnipotent god doesn't want to send people to hell but does so anyway.
Only the foolishness of ignorance could produce a statement like that. A compassionate judge given a verdict of guilty from a jury may not want to sentence a person to life in prison, but the law of justice requires him to do so. Does this concept also go over your head.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 2:48 pm
(This post was last modified: August 12, 2013 at 2:49 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
That Sam Harris video (which I have watched and re-watched before - I love it - by the way) has put my viewpoint on Free Will, that I had already had for years and years beforehand, since I was pretty young actually, to a T. No one has explained my position better.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 2:54 pm
Yeah, it's pretty awesome. I got the book on my kindle, he pretty much covers most of the book in that lecture. Good book. Sam Harris is awesome. Kinda looks like Ben Stiller too. Lol
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 3:16 pm
(August 12, 2013 at 2:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: Only the foolishness of ignorance could produce a statement like that. A compassionate judge given a verdict of guilty from a jury may not want to sentence a person to life in prison, but the law of justice requires him to do so. Does this concept also go over your head. 1: The judge, in practice, is bound by the laws of the state, laws that are above his position.
2: The judge did not create the judicial system or the prison in which the guilty will be held.
God created both the system by which to judge people, and the place of eternal torture in which to keep them.
When I was a JW, we believed the Christian concept of hell was against a loving god, and that the punish for sin was what he said at the beginning to Adam and Eve.... death, eternal non-existence, nothing more nothing less.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 3:21 pm
Quote:Only the foolishness of ignorance could produce a statement like that. A compassionate judge given a verdict of guilty from a jury may not want to sentence a person to life in prison, but the law of justice requires him to do so. Does this concept also go over your head.
So your "omnipotent" god is bound by legal precedent?
The god you worship sounds like a useless twit saying "dear me, dear me" over and over.
Zeus and Odin were just as unreal and not such fucking pussies.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 3:24 pm
(August 12, 2013 at 9:07 am)Maelstrom Wrote: (August 12, 2013 at 1:38 am)Godschild Wrote: The Holy Spirit is my sight when it comes to scripture and other spiritual matters.
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What if the Holy Spirit is really a demon of satan, fooling you?
You believe the enemy of God and myself would actually reveal the truths of scripture, wouldn't that be damaging to his cause, you know what's said," a house divided against itself can't stand."
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 3:27 pm
(August 12, 2013 at 2:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: Only the foolishness of ignorance could produce a statement like that. A compassionate judge given a verdict of guilty from a jury may not want to sentence a person to life in prison, but the law of justice requires him to do so. Does this concept also go over your head.
Others have already covered this, but I will reiterate and will try to keep it simple. A judge is bound by the laws of the land. An omnipotent god is bound by nothing. Surely even someone as feeble-minded as yourself can grasp this.
By the way, I'm dying to know, what does Jesus think of your arrogance?
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 12, 2013 at 3:30 pm
The only thing about Hell which seems unpalatable to me is that all the Christians will be there with us, according to the requirements of getting into heaven. An eternity with GC sounds like hell to me.
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