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"God will even the score"
#31
RE: "God will even the score"
(August 17, 2013 at 11:01 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Chad, I don't recall saying that you should not be free to threaten "sinners" with the wrath of their bogeyman - the same as I am free to point out that I in fact see no bogeyman at at all.
My point exactly. If you don't believe in God then you don't believe in sin. Thus any criticism I level against sin should be of no concern to you. Why get your panties in a knot?
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#32
RE: "God will even the score"
Because these criticisms leveled by people like you try to turn these beliefs into government laws and policies.
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#33
RE: "God will even the score"
(August 18, 2013 at 12:54 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Because these criticisms leveled by people like you try to turn these beliefs into government laws and policies.
Except, as I stated, I'm a libertarian. You must be confusing me with left-wing fascists that want to ban soda pop and 100w incandescent light bulbs.
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#34
RE: "God will even the score"
(August 18, 2013 at 12:54 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Because these criticisms leveled by people like you try to turn these beliefs into government laws and policies.

This.
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#35
RE: "God will even the score"
(August 18, 2013 at 12:59 am)ChadWooters Wrote:
(August 18, 2013 at 12:54 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Because these criticisms leveled by people like you try to turn these beliefs into government laws and policies.
Except, as I stated, I'm a libertarian. You must be confusing me with left-wing fascists that want to ban soda pop and 100w incandescent light bulbs.

Great, how about convincing your other fellow believers to follow a similar path?
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#36
RE: "God will even the score"
(August 18, 2013 at 12:44 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Why get your panties in a knot?

Impossible. I'm not wearing any.
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#37
RE: "God will even the score"
(August 18, 2013 at 12:59 am)ChadWooters Wrote:
(August 18, 2013 at 12:54 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Because these criticisms leveled by people like you try to turn these beliefs into government laws and policies.
Except, as I stated, I'm a libertarian. You must be confusing me with left-wing fascists that want to ban soda pop and 100w incandescent light bulbs.

These policies you named are always put to vote, and they don't appear to be based on any kind of religious foundation.
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#38
RE: "God will even the score"
(August 16, 2013 at 5:59 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:
Quote:After denouncing First Amendment protections for Muslim-Americans, American Family Association talk show host Sandy Rios said that despite the political setbacks of the Religious Right, “God will even the score” with President Obama and “homosexual activists.” She said that Obama and “homosexual activists” will be punished in the end for “breaking all kinds of moral laws and mocking everyone in the process.

"I would not want to be in the shoes of any of the left right now. I would not want to be in Barack Obama’s shoes. I would not want to be in the shoes of homosexual activists. I say that with humility and with fear for them because God will even the score, he will sort things out, he will be God and he will not be mocked. Whereas they think they are getting away with breaking all kinds of moral laws and mocking everyone in the process, they just don’t know God, they don’t know who they are up against and we do. And that should bring out some mercy in us because I wouldn’t want to be—what did that old evangelist say: ‘it’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.' "

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/ri...a-and-gays

Confused Fall

Hang on a tick....

(August 16, 2013 at 11:32 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Nothing in the quote seemed particularly objectionable to me.

...OK. You see nothing objectionable? Nothing?

Look again.

(Hint...you claim to be a libertarian.)
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#39
RE: "God will even the score"
(August 18, 2013 at 1:06 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(August 18, 2013 at 12:44 am)ChadWooters Wrote: Why get your panties in a knot?

Impossible. I'm not wearing any.

More than I wanted to know...
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#40
RE: "God will even the score"
(August 17, 2013 at 10:39 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: As a general principle, I find it commendable that people who feel passionately about a cause advocate strongly for it, it the most civil way possible.

"You're going to burn in hell forever" isn't the most civil way possible.

It isn't the freedom to believe in such ideas, or express them, that is troubling to me. It is the desire by many who hold those ideas to forcefully impose them upon others. Legally if they can, via other means if they cannot. A person who believes that he is motivated by love to take away the freedoms and rights of others will not feel as if he is doing any wrong and is therefore extremely dangerous.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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