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Gospel Contradictions: Sermon on the ?
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 (August 30, 2013 at 8:54 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Newsflash Drich and Tonus: the two events are mutually exclusive. Either Jesus preached on the plain or he preached sitting down on higher ground. Such a difference is enough to question the authors' sources. I know, which is why I wondered about the discrepancy in my post. I don't see it as a smoking gun type of problem, is all. If we assume that these are third-hand accounts written decades after the death of Christ, the fact that they got a detail like that wrong is not surprising, even if we assume the hand of god at work. Other details, such as the differences in the "judge not" part of the sermon, are more significant because what they include/omit/add makes for very different interpretations.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould 
Yeah, but if the Bible is not inerrant in one area you can't know that it is infallible in other areas such as theology or morality.
Watch him. He simply denies that the errors are errors and Voila... "Inerrancy" restored.
The mind of a jesus freak is a scary thing. (August 31, 2013 at 7:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Watch him. He simply denies that the errors are errors and Voila... "Inerrancy" restored. LOL, yeah. I was listening to Bart Erhman lecture and he said when he was a fundamentalist he was an expert at reconciling Bible contradictions, then eventually one contradiction was so clear he just couldn't get around it, then his whole system fell through. Happened to me. 
You guys ever hear of a plateau? It's a plain on a mount.
There are better contradictions in the Bible; not even sure this is really a contradiction as it is a possible trivial mistake.
 (September 3, 2013 at 4:45 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: There are better contradictions in the Bible; not even sure this is really a contradiction as it is a possible trivial mistake. A-yup. Let's not forget that the Bible tells us in the space of only a couple chapters that there are two origin stories for the earth and its inhabitants. Xtians right off the bat are sent scrambling to try and make sense of the nonsense in Genesis. ![[Image: 10314461_875206779161622_3907189760171701548_n.jpg]](https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10314461_875206779161622_3907189760171701548_n.jpg)
 (August 30, 2013 at 8:54 pm)FallentoReason Wrote: Newsflash Drich and Tonus: the two events are mutually exclusive. Either Jesus preached on the plain or he preached sitting down on higher ground. Such a difference is enough to question the authors' sources. Maybe read the account. The bible does not say plain. It say flat place. As in Jesus was walking down a steep mountain side, found a flat place on the mountain side and began to teach. Luke's account does not ever say Christ left the mountain. |
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