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Former believers, did you feel religion scammed you?
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Deflection noted.
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I was under the impression that catfish is not a Christian. Is that where this line of discussion went off the rails, or am I missing something else?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
He is a Christian only in a very loose sense of the word. If I remember correctly, he does not believe Jesus was divine and enjoys calling himself a Christian to irritate atheists and Christians alike.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
I get a little grin on my face whenever he posts, but then I die a little inside when I respond.
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He likes to bait people. It's best not to bite.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
RE: Former believers, did you feel religion scammed you?
September 4, 2013 at 10:15 am
(This post was last modified: September 4, 2013 at 10:16 am by LastPoet.)
I'm sure that catfish in the real life is a decent guy. He just thinks we are all out to get him. Nah. Won't bite.
(August 30, 2013 at 5:37 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: I feel embarrassed that I used to be a christian. I also I feel jealous for those that were never in a faith. Is there anyone else that feels this way? Absolutely! For 16 yrs I went to services every Sunday, joined children's and young adult groups, etc. My mother was even a Sunday school teacher so I heard it at home, too. I remember being 5 yrs old and my mother telling me that Jesus Christ was going to return. Boy was I excited...more excited than if Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy wouldve all been invited to my birthday party. I remember the wonderful magical stories we were told every week...The creation, the flood, the exodus, daniel and the lions den, david and goliath, the resurrection... As I got older all that magic faded away as I actually started reading the bible that was given to me as a gift from the pastor on the day I became a confirmed member of the church. They told me to read it...I blame them. I read every disturbing, violent, sickening, and contradictory thing in that so-called holy book. My whole (fantasy) world came crashing down. I have a child of my own now. I don't force him to go to church. One of his friends is the son of a pastor. His friend tells him about his views...or should i say the views of his father because hes certainly too young to be thinking this way for himself. My son dismisses them as silly. I wish I would've had that kind of sense when i was his age.
The above is why it's so important to teach our children to think for themselves. I almost cannot believe some of the success stories I hear about how theists one day drop the shackles of religion and see the forest from the trees. I'm doing all I can to make sure my daughter has the same opportunities for learning that your son has.
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