Seriously, Who's Immoral?

[Michael Schubert]

I was reading an excellent book called Evolution: The First Four Billion Years (it just has everything!), and there was one scholarly essay about American antievolutionism that made me laugh out loud. Listen to this passage about religious hostility towards the teaching of evolution:

In this view, if a child loses faith in God, then that child is lost to salvation, a serious issue to conservative Christians. Furthermore, children who lack belief in God will have no moral rudder to guide them and thus will have no reason to behave properly to their fellow citizens. Society will suffer greatly, all because of "belief" in evolution. A common creationist claim related to behavior is that if children are taught that they are animals, they will behave like animals rather than creatures made in the image of God.



Now if you have heard any type of nonsense that is more absurd than that, please tell us.

How on earth can today's Christians possibly be more moral than a nonbeliever? Listen to this jerk-off talking to Matt and Jeff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXuD8IFjR...r7&index=4

Better yet, how about the violence between the Catholics and the Protestants in Northern Ireland? Is it moral for Christians to murder each other? That is a difficult question to answer, for the Holy Bible says homosexuals should be murdered, yet the Ten Commandments state "Thou Shalt Not Kill". And here we have Catholics and Protestants murdering each other, and I don't think homosexuality has anything to do with it. Slobodon Milosevic was a Christian nationalist who murdered Muslims during his ethnic cleansing campaign. Was he moral?

Let us also not forget Pat Robertson, Bryan Fischer, Bill O' Reilly, Ann Coulter, and the rest of the nut jobs who go on national media and slander Atheists, homosexuals, women, and anyone who isn't a white Christian. They hate science, reason, and everything that contradicts their scriptural dogma.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc8XS-PxF...E&index=17

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvTqV4jui...CCF3BF71AE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YyjrhvmD...CCF3BF71AE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdh4SiNmZcs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVOSC82tMsQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGxBUyHbn...E&index=24

Bad morality is also not at all reserved for Christians. All I will say is "Al Qaeda" and "The Taliban". Need I say more?

So when do nonbelievers and rationalists possess bad morals? Well, I'll admit that Christopher Hitchens is immoral because he supported the Iraq invasion. But that is nothing compared to the very religious. Otherwise, rationalists like Aron Ra, Matt Dillahunty, Tracie Harris and all at the Atheist Experience are some of the most intelligent people on earth.

So, in other words, it is fair to say most religious people are indeed immoral and act like wild animals; not the evolutionists or the rationalists.

[Faith No More]

So, in other words, it is fair to say most religious people are indeed immoral and act like wild animals; not the evolutionists or the rationalists.

Most? Your conclusion isn't supported by your premises. "Some" would be more appropriate.

And what exactly is an "evolutionist"?

[Silver]

I first read the word as immortal.

[paulpablo]

Having more intelligence doesn't mean you have better morals, I don't think it is fair to say religious people act like wild animals more than evolutionists or rationalists, whatever an evolutionist or a rationalist is. All you can really say is that we are all human and usually have the urge to fuck, fight and we also feel emotional about things and make some wrong decisions.

[Michael Schubert]

Having more intelligence doesn't mean you have better morals, I don't think it is fair to say religious people act like wild animals more than evolutionists or rationalists, whatever an evolutionist or a rationalist is.

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topi...ationalism

An evolutionist is a scientist who studies evolution.

[Faith No More]

You mean an evolutionary biologist?

[Minimalist]

Is it moral for Christians to murder each other?

Apparently that is what religion is all about.

[Michael Schubert]

You mean an evolutionary biologist?

Right.

[pineapplebunnybounce]

That's an evolutionary biologist.

I've never heard the word "evolutionist" uttered by a scientist or a science student before. And I'm around them a lot, many who belong to the field of ecology and evolution science.

Evolutionist is a word made up by the religious to denote people who subscribe to the theory of evolution.

Edit: btw, awesome speech by Matt from the Atheist Experience.

[Faith No More]

Evolutionist is a term used by creationists and is meant to have a derogatory connotation.