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Creed's Ramble Thread
#21
RE: Creed's Ramble Thread
Creed Wrote:Leaving her alone with him...is not an option I can even consider.

So don't leave her alone, and stop considering it to be an option?

Or, you could go with that whole 'embracing life' thing. Ala Lorien:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujayd9MuCFM

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Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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#22
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I love how people are nagging you over drug use, as if that ever works or as if they know your pattern of use.
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#23
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I will try to provide assistance, but I need some clarification. I get to the root of things so bear with me if I lack subtlety. What is your academic background?
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#24
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(September 20, 2013 at 11:19 am)Psykhronic Wrote: I love how people are nagging you over drug use, as if that ever works
It rarely works immediately. It's more planting of a seed.
Quote:or as if they know your pattern of use.
Happy - so drink/smoke to celebrate. Sad - so drink/smoke to forget. Feeling nothing - so drink/smoke to feel something. Yes, we know something of the pattern, and it's not a normal casual user pattern.
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#25
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Really? He seemed to just say that he has not smoked in months. And isn't THAT frequent of a drinker. You make it sound like every second he is puffing or pounding something back.

Here's the thing about nagging - too much, and it turns people away.
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(September 20, 2013 at 10:51 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:
Creed Wrote:Leaving her alone with him...is not an option I can even consider.

So don't leave her alone, and stop considering it to be an option?

Or, you could go with that whole 'embracing life' thing. Ala Lorien:

Wink

That you just Babylon 5'd alone is worthy of kudos. Big Grin

My idea so far, my plan of attack...well, my outlook right now is "this, too, shall pass." Granted, it requires the assistance of friends, the assistance of venting, and sometimes the assistance of intoxication, but it's a means to an end. A goal at a time; endure this shit, so I can get out of it, in all forms. Get stable, steady employment that can not just sustain me but allow me to get my life going again, to allow me to regain at least a semblance of what I was and what I had...albeit with more caution this time. Get repairwork done on room-mate's car (which I use as well; this'll be my way of paying my share of it). Move out of the current apartment, leave Danny the Schizo to his fate, whatever it may be...without having to break the bank to do so (hence the transfer of lease idea). Begin taking classes; get an education in culinary arts (my passion, my joy), and in business management (best to know how to run a business if I wish to start a restaurant). Work from there.

As well as this, I need to continue to get treatment for the bipolar disorder shit.

Step at a time. Step at a time.
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#27
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(September 20, 2013 at 8:57 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Really? He seemed to just say that he has not smoked in months. And isn't THAT frequent of a drinker. You make it sound like every second he is puffing or pounding something back.
And I just said that I'm concerned with the thought patterns associated with his use, with no mention of the frequency. Yet, all you hear is frequency.
Quote:Here's the thing about nagging - too much, and it turns people away.
Here's the thing about enabling - it keeps people in bad habits.

Consider this - if drugs aren't a problem for him, then it isn't a problem for him to stop using them for a year, is it? And doesn't it seem that it might be helpful for someone with mental problems to stop self-medicating with recreational drugs until such problems have been successfully treated?
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#28
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There is a fine line between accepting someone's poor choice, and another to enable it. Enabling is to encourage something past the point of safety or brevity. The thought patterns typically come BEFORE the use, not after. I DO feel an increase in depression the day after, but it stabilizes [as much as it ever will] the day after. No surprise there. As far as marijuana use goes, THC does not bind to any of the chemical receptors in the brain that are associated with bipolar disorder, so it won't affect the bipolarity. And, in fact...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_e...93_Bipolar

Just something to consider. Evidence is anecdotal, yeah. But, given how I seem to react to it, well, it seems to help when I really, really need it.

Alas, there is no successful way to treat bipolar disorder. Like many other mental health problems, it is a lifelong condition that can even with therapy and medication is not likely to ever come under full control. After all, medications only address the symptoms, and therapy only addresses emotional reactions to those symptoms...but there is no way to fully cure that which causes the symptoms. Not right now, anyway. Maybe, hopefully, in the future. Buuut...given how the APS consistently feels the need to butt heads with the APA over matters that get downright trivial and petty, and NIMH is getting tugged back and forth between the two, well...I won't hold my breath.

Best I can do is just address the symptoms when they reach particularly overwhelming points by any means necessary, and meanwhile to explore the different medical and therapeutic options available, which is what I am presently doing.

Treatment != Instantaneous improvement of symptoms. I go into this under the clear understanding that I might end up going through dozens of medication combinations before I finally hit that sweet spot of clarity and stability. I really hold no hope that I will fully stabilize any time soon. Doesn't mean I'm gonna stop trying, though, either.
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#29
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John - I am not enabling. Nice try though. This is not a black and white world as far as we know, just because i think nagging is stupid does not mean I am enabling.

He could stop for a year if he wanted to. Or until his meds are better. But like I just said, which you seem to think is so irrelevant, he has not been doing much anyway. So what's the point?

Quick edit:

And if you're more worried about his thought pattern combined with usage - only he truly knows that pattern for sure. And if he is, say, drinking when he becomes sad, yeah the drinking is not great but what is making him sad and how he can deal with it are more relevant. Obviously, if he reaches alcoholic status he'd have to give up booze, but I don't see it. And I excluded pot intentionally.
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#30
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(September 21, 2013 at 12:34 am)Creed of Heresy Wrote: Move out of the current apartment, leave Danny the Schizo to his fate, whatever it may be...without having to break the bank to do so (hence the transfer of lease idea).

Offer still open, brah. Complete with travel payment and a 1-month breathing room loan to facilitate transfer. Wink 2 rooms available in Octobeer.

Quote:Begin taking classes; get an education in culinary arts (my passion, my joy), and in business management (best to know how to run a business if I wish to start a restaurant). Work from there.

2 colleges point blank here, open fridge. Foodies unite. Ins to a certain potted plant, bars of your choice a rather short walk away.

Quote:As well as this, I need to continue to get treatment for the bipolar disorder shit.

Step at a time. Step at a time.

You got dis.
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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