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RE: Korean Hell
September 10, 2013 at 11:25 pm
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(September 9, 2013 at 4:20 pm)Kemotx Wrote: Forget Yodok, this is the real Korean hell. Or at least, this is what Korean Fundamentalists are trying to show us. As an Atheist, I'm shocked. There is a 9 year old in this video shown in hell, but that's not the worst part. Apparently pretty much everything can lead you to hell.
I was a fundamentalist for 2 years, but now I'm an atheist and I can debunk God's existence easily. But look at the comments on this video: People say that Jesus is loving. One day, about year ago, I had enough I said:
''GOD! You monster! I won't love you, because the only reason I pretended to love you is because I was afraid of hell! You are a failure, Yahweh! You failed at saving those who you ''loved''. YOU FAILED!''
After that moment, I was free, and I'm free to this day. Because I can't imagine being happy while knowing about people in hell.
But you may, because it's possible you will have a first hand account, a front row seat, rubbing elbows with them. Also how does one debunk that he does not believe exists. Many here have said it's not possible to debunk God.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Korean Hell
September 10, 2013 at 11:29 pm
(September 10, 2013 at 4:37 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (September 10, 2013 at 10:40 am)Drich Wrote: You people are bigots.
This dipiction of Hell speaks to a specific culture. The things they fear, the things that are terrifing to them. I let the post go long enough to gather evidence that speaks to the fact that the majority of your insults are not to Hell in general, but what a specific group/Race of people are scared of. Which makes me ask if these Koreans were Africans or just black people who live in your country would you be so insentive to steriotype and laugh at what scares them? Of course not, as that line is alittle more black and white and easy to see. But when that line turns yellow and white somehow it is ok to cross it?
Please explain.
I want you to explain to me how this thread is bigoted. Point to one thing that was racially or culturally insensitive. I also want you to point to one thing that, if this was about Africans, no one would say.
Isn't being hyper-sensitive about racial and culture issues an extreme left-wing thing? You're not going "Nancy Pelosi," are you? All lables aside, What is right is right. If you want to have a religious discussion the the subject matter should be Hell in general, not what makes hell, hell for those who live in a specific culture.
That would be like me feigning an instrest in Islam just so I can make fun of the dirty brown people it appeals to.. Now is that a topic only nancy peiosi would be willing to speak against? What is the difference here? The topic feigns an interest in discussing Hell, yet the primary focus has been yellow people who put this video together
And their general level of intelligence.
You guys crossed the line. Not my line but your own, for that I get to call you not only hypocrites but biggots as well..
For me I am a Christian, 1/2 Korean, and I've seen the gates of hell. my opinion, I think the guys are nuts. But I do get it. A lot of what I saw was or rather spoke to the social fears and pains of these people. Something a more open and less reserved culture may look at as foolishness. What is trying to be communicated here is the crippling fear and torment that the hell bound have to look forward to. For them what you see in the video is all apart of a great torment they collectively fear.
That said hell is much much worse than being mutilated by some monster. Hell is what the monsters fear, and for good reason.
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RE: Korean Hell
September 11, 2013 at 12:34 am
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I believe everyone was commenting on the fundamentalists who believe in this hell. No one said anything about Koreans in general. Yes these fundamentalists happen to be Koreans. In fact, you're the first one to assign this thing to Koreans in general, but if I'm not mistaken, most S. Koreans aren't fundamentalists. Well, it really does seem like you're the only one caught up by the nationality of those who made this video.
Oh, and that racial slur about brown people? That generally qualifies as a bigoted comment.
GC, hell exists, it's filled with pink unicorns that fart rainbows. Many here will tell you that's impossible to debunk.
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RE: Korean Hell
September 11, 2013 at 8:19 am
(September 11, 2013 at 12:34 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Oh, and that racial slur about brown people? That generally qualifies as a bigoted comment. Good so we can agree there.
In your mind what makes a comment about what someone from a specific culture looks like differ from what someone from a specific culture thinks like?
Now keep in mind the defination of bigot.
big·ot/ˈbɪgət/ Show Spelled [big-uht] Show IPA
noun
a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
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RE: Korean Hell
September 11, 2013 at 8:47 am
(September 10, 2013 at 11:29 pm)Drich Wrote: All lables aside, What is right is right. If you want to have a religious discussion the the subject matter should be Hell in general, not what makes hell, hell for those who live in a specific culture.
That would be like me feigning an instrest in Islam just so I can make fun of the dirty brown people it appeals to.. Now is that a topic only nancy peiosi would be willing to speak against? What is the difference here? The topic feigns an interest in discussing Hell, yet the primary focus has been yellow people who put this video together
And their general level of intelligence.
You guys crossed the line. Not my line but your own, for that I get to call you not only hypocrites but biggots as well..
For me I am a Christian, 1/2 Korean, and I've seen the gates of hell. my opinion, I think the guys are nuts. But I do get it. A lot of what I saw was or rather spoke to the social fears and pains of these people. Something a more open and less reserved culture may look at as foolishness. What is trying to be communicated here is the crippling fear and torment that the hell bound have to look forward to. For them what you see in the video is all apart of a great torment they collectively fear.
That said hell is much much worse than being mutilated by some monster. Hell is what the monsters fear, and for good reason.
I noticed you failed to point out one instance of bigotry on this thread.
Your claims are bullshit, Drich, and I think you're being hyper-sensitive due to your race. The discussion here has been about hell, even though certain Asian cultural aspects were mentioned, such as Buddhist hell. No one here has mocked any race or culture. All that has been pointed out is that this particular version of hell came from Koreans. No one even made that an issue until you came whining in here about racial insensitivity.
Suck it up, and quit being a baby. You're acting like Al Sharpton. No one has made one, single racially insensitive comment, and the only line that has been crossed is that which divides valid criticism with being over-sensitive about racial issues.
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RE: Korean Hell
September 11, 2013 at 2:47 pm
(September 11, 2013 at 8:47 am)Faith No More Wrote: (September 10, 2013 at 11:29 pm)Drich Wrote: All lables aside, What is right is right. If you want to have a religious discussion the the subject matter should be Hell in general, not what makes hell, hell for those who live in a specific culture.
That would be like me feigning an instrest in Islam just so I can make fun of the dirty brown people it appeals to.. Now is that a topic only nancy peiosi would be willing to speak against? What is the difference here? The topic feigns an interest in discussing Hell, yet the primary focus has been yellow people who put this video together
And their general level of intelligence.
You guys crossed the line. Not my line but your own, for that I get to call you not only hypocrites but biggots as well..
For me I am a Christian, 1/2 Korean, and I've seen the gates of hell. my opinion, I think the guys are nuts. But I do get it. A lot of what I saw was or rather spoke to the social fears and pains of these people. Something a more open and less reserved culture may look at as foolishness. What is trying to be communicated here is the crippling fear and torment that the hell bound have to look forward to. For them what you see in the video is all apart of a great torment they collectively fear.
That said hell is much much worse than being mutilated by some monster. Hell is what the monsters fear, and for good reason.
I noticed you failed to point out one instance of bigotry on this thread.
Your claims are bullshit, Drich, and I think you're being hyper-sensitive due to your race. The discussion here has been about hell, even though certain Asian cultural aspects were mentioned, such as Buddhist hell. No one here has mocked any race or culture. All that has been pointed out is that this particular version of hell came from Koreans. No one even made that an issue until you came whining in here about racial insensitivity.
Suck it up, and quit being a baby. You're acting like Al Sharpton. No one has made one, single racially insensitive comment, and the only line that has been crossed is that which divides valid criticism with being over-sensitive about racial issues.
What was the title of the thread again?
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RE: Korean Hell
September 11, 2013 at 2:57 pm
(September 11, 2013 at 2:47 pm)Drich Wrote: What was the title of the thread again?
Korean hell.
How is that bigoted?
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RE: Korean Hell
September 11, 2013 at 4:22 pm
(September 11, 2013 at 2:57 pm)Faith No More Wrote: (September 11, 2013 at 2:47 pm)Drich Wrote: What was the title of the thread again?
Korean hell.
How is that bigoted?
The title in of itself are not. all of the disparaging comments that align themselves with the dictionary.com defination are: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
The title only highlights everything being discussed is indeed a 'differing belief, creed or opinion. The intolerance is found in the content of the posts being left concerning this differing belief in Hell.
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RE: Korean Hell
September 11, 2013 at 4:26 pm
Oh crap, I thought this thread was about the Seoul airport.
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RE: Korean Hell
September 11, 2013 at 4:36 pm
(September 11, 2013 at 4:22 pm)Drich Wrote: The title in of itself are not. all of the disparaging comments that align themselves with the dictionary.com defination are: a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.
The title only highlights everything being discussed is indeed a 'differing belief, creed or opinion. The intolerance is found in the content of the posts being left concerning this differing belief in Hell.
I wish I had a dollar for every time you move the goal-posts in an argument.
You claimed that we were being bigoted towards Koreans, which are not a "differing creed, belief, or opinion." Get your shit together.
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