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You want to know why I questioned my faith?
September 11, 2013 at 10:11 pm
It's because of stupid ass, uneducated answers like these from religious people I thought be educated that I am an agonostic:
http://www.christianforums.com/t7773575/#post64128576
Just say you don't effing know the answers. Post is mine, by the way. The reason I posted under guise of "Christian" is because their apologetics section required you to be a "Christian" to post. Such intolerance of those who command it.
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RE: You want to know why I questioned my faith?
September 12, 2013 at 5:29 am
It's not really any different from the responses we get from theists here. Although the reference to "mitochondrial Eve" made me chuckle.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: You want to know why I questioned my faith?
September 12, 2013 at 7:42 am
Something about that christian defender really pisses me off. I think I know what it is.
That guy is responding as if he is defending a comic book superhero or villain or whatever like people would say about Thanos on Comic Vine.
I have no problem with people defending their comic book characters from anything because We all know that these characters are purposely fictional and for our entertainment.
But this christian is treating his character named "god" as if it were real. This is a fallacy I would like to call the nonfictional breach fallacy.
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RE: You want to know why I questioned my faith?
September 12, 2013 at 8:02 am
I see they trotted out the free will defense against the question of evil. Whenever I hear that, I can't help but imagine a Christian standing in a hosptial next to a comotase child that was raped and beaten by her attacker thinking, "At least I have free will."
Not to mention that that argument corners them into accepting that either there is no free will in heaven, or god can create a world where free will and the absence of evil are compatible.
Hogwash as usual.
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RE: You want to know why I questioned my faith?
September 12, 2013 at 9:15 am
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2013 at 9:15 am by InevitableCheese.)
I gave up when the first real response was "atheistic evolution is not true". And then the crap about age of the earth. I figured these were just standard things people knew.
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RE: You want to know why I questioned my faith?
September 12, 2013 at 9:51 pm
(September 12, 2013 at 11:49 am)John V Wrote: Quote:You want to know why I questioned my faith?
Not in the off-topic section I don't.
I posted here, because it was light-hearted complaining, instead of debate and argument.
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RE: You want to know why I questioned my faith?
September 13, 2013 at 1:30 am
I see they started all that fake concern and god bless stuff. All in all their arguments ate exactly what you expect from emotionally invested people that can not think too much about their beliefs without fear. It however really pisses me off on how they only allow Christians full access, but if atheists did that somewhere like here they would scream censorship.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
