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What's everyone up to right now?
RE: What's everyone up to right now?
(December 22, 2016 at 8:42 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(December 22, 2016 at 8:06 pm)Jello Wrote: Kinda hard to fit an arm through the type 97 machinegun mounted there Tongue

It's not even field modification, their tanks came off the production line with these machineguns mounted in such a strange way. Tongue

Like this?

[Image: chito_2.jpgef5a7f1c-b1a8-4c27-8f2c-d8dc2...iginal.jpg]

Seems pretty obvious why they'd do that.

No, i mean the machine gun on the back of a turret of a tank such as (for example) the I-Go. It's at a weird angle off the back of the turret Tongue
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
Maybe it's because the turret was small, and they wanted an anti-personnel weapon facing rearward, but because of the lack of room and the need to load the turret from the rear, they had to shift the machine gun off center.
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
(December 22, 2016 at 8:58 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Maybe it's because the turret was small, and they wanted an anti-personnel weapon facing rearward, but because of the lack of room and the need to load the turret from the rear, they had to shift the machine gun off center.

That would make sense, it is kinda small, thinking about it Tongue Well, that solves that one then. Big Grin
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
(December 22, 2016 at 9:10 pm)Jello Wrote:
(December 22, 2016 at 8:58 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Maybe it's because the turret was small, and they wanted an anti-personnel weapon facing rearward, but because of the lack of room and the need to load the turret from the rear, they had to shift the machine gun off center.

That would make sense, it is kinda small, thinking about it Tongue Well, that solves that one then. Big Grin

Or the hatch/ladder is in the way. One of those two. Big Grin
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
Just finished planting about 50 metres of Agapanthus around the fence line.
My neighbour had a fence put in and had to dig out half of his so I got them for free.
Purple and white flowered.
They'll put on a great show next year.
I thought it would take me a couple of hours but it took me six.
Now I'm stuffed. :-)
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
(December 22, 2016 at 8:42 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(December 22, 2016 at 8:06 pm)Jello Wrote: Kinda hard to fit an arm through the type 97 machinegun mounted there Tongue

It's not even field modification, their tanks came off the production line with these machineguns mounted in such a strange way. Tongue

Like this?

[Image: chito_2.jpgef5a7f1c-b1a8-4c27-8f2c-d8dc2...iginal.jpg]

Seems pretty obvious why they'd do that.

Navy guy, amirite?

No sane infantryman wants to be anywhere near the business end of one of those. The MG, no matter where it is located, is primarily an anti personnel weapon. You put the gun where the infantry are, which ain't on the front end of the tank unless they're very dumb.
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
(December 22, 2016 at 10:55 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(December 22, 2016 at 8:42 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Like this?

[Image: chito_2.jpgef5a7f1c-b1a8-4c27-8f2c-d8dc2...iginal.jpg]

Seems pretty obvious why they'd do that.

Navy guy, amirite?

No sane infantryman wants to be anywhere near the business end of one of those.  The MG, no matter where it is located, is primarily an anti personnel weapon.  You put the gun where the infantry are, which ain't on the front end of the tank unless they're very dumb.

But at the same time, on the I-Go, the tank i specified (Rather than that Chi-To) , the machinegun is facing off to the left of the turret, at a 45 degree angle, which surely is less effective than say one that is just rear facing? It gives too much room for infantry assault on the right hand side of the turret. Tongue
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
There's a really good reason they don't make em like that anymore.
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
P.S. the assumption those designs is that tanks never operate alone (and they don't, not even main battle tanks) and that you will always have someone to cover your flank, except the guy way out on the flank. I don't thinknthey thought infantry to the rear was a significant design error, and at that time it probably wasn't. Warfare changes.
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RE: What's everyone up to right now?
That's always true, i guess. I overlooked that slightly, as japan didn't have the production power to actually produce enough I-Go tanks to be used like that Tongue
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