Genocide in the Old Testament

[Bad Writer]

Your god is not off the hook no matter how you try to justify his supposed actions.

[Minimalist]

God doesnt need to justify His actions.
Physicists who make atomic bombs do.

Thanks for demonstrating why you are a dick.

[Lemonvariable72]

God doesnt need to justify His actions.
Physicists who make atomic bombs do.

Okay why is it your god does not need to justify his actions?

[Captain Colostomy]

God doesnt need to justify His actions.
Physicists who make atomic bombs do.

Okay why is it your god does not need to justify his actions?

Because the paeons running interference for his ass say so. Duh.

[Beta Ray Bill]

Every time we see war and violence in the bible, it is started by humans. And God only intervenes to bring it to a hasty conclusion.

This is about Jehu, the tenth king of Israel. No change in context:
2 Kings 10:17: And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him, according to the saying of the LORD, which he spake to Elijah.

This is what God thought of Jehu's actions. Again, no change in context:
10:30: And the LORD said unto Jehu, Because thou hast done well in executing that which is right in mine eyes, and hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart, thy children of the fourth generation shall sit on the throne of Israel.

Lion IRC, if you're going to make a claim, make sure you're right.

[Jackalope]

Knauss does not insist they we worship him or pretend to be a font of moral goodness the way you clowns carry on about your fucking god.

To my knowledge, Krauss has never advocated the use of nuclear weapons, or been involved in their design or construction, either.

[Minimalist]

Lion IRC, if you're going to make a claim, make sure you're right.

That would take all the fun out of it for him.



While looking around for something else I found this bit of horseshit from a bible apologist...the kind that Lyin IRC and G-C and Drippy want to be when they grow up.

Read carefully what this full-blown xitan dickhead has to say.

http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/...ective.htm

Can the actions of the Israelites legitimately be called genocide?

The term “genocide” means a major action “committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group.” {3} Some twentieth-century examples are the extermination of six million Jews by the Nazis and the slaughter of 800,000 Tutsis by the Hutus in Rwanda in 1994. Going by this definition alone, the destruction of the Canaanites would seem to have been genocide.

But there is a major difference. These twentieth-century examples were basically people killing people simply because they hated them and/or wanted their land. The Canaanites, by contrast, were destroyed at the direction of God and primarily because of their sin. Because of this, I think the term should be avoided. The completely negative connotations of “genocide” make it hard to look at the biblical events without a jaundiced eye.

One’s background theological beliefs make a big difference in how one sees this. If God was not behind the conquest of Canaan, then the Israelites were no different than the Nazis and the Hutus. However, once the biblical doctrines of God and of sin are taken into consideration, the background scenery changes and the picture looks very different. There is only one true God, and that God deserves all honor and worship. Furthermore, justice must respond to the moral failure of sin. The Canaanites were grossly sinful people who were given plenty of time by God to change their ways. They had passed the point of redeemability, and were ripe for judgment.

The fact that none of it ever happened is beside the point. This assclown - and our local examples believe it did and think it a good thing. It is for reasons like this that I consider fundie xtians the most despicable dregs of humanity.

[Captain Colostomy]

Gotta love semantics.

[Lion IRC]

Every time we see war and violence in the bible, it is started by humans. And God only intervenes to bring it to a hasty conclusion.

This is about Jehu, the tenth king of Israel. No change in context:
2 Kings 10:17: And when he came to Samaria, he slew all that remained unto Ahab in Samaria, till he had destroyed him, according to the saying of the LORD, which he spake to Elijah.

This is what God thought of Jehu's actions. Again, no change in context:
10:30: And the LORD said unto Jehu, Because thou hast done well in executing that which is right in mine eyes, and hast done unto the house of Ahab according to all that was in mine heart, thy children of the fourth generation shall sit on the throne of Israel.

Lion IRC, if you're going to make a claim, make sure you're right.

Oh I'm quite right on this one too. Ahab the wicked murderous war lord idolater starts it. God finishes it.
Do yourself a favour and grab a study bible. Learn FIRST Kings. Then see how out of context your quote-mining of 2nd Kings is.

[Minimalist]

Congratulations. You know your fairy tales. Do you also know that the Tortoise beat the Hare?

Ahab was a real king....unlike your fucking phony god.