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Mark 16:17-18 - The Words of Jesus?
#21
RE: Mark 16:17-18 - The Words of Jesus?
Have we asked the question why God hates amputees recently?
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#22
RE: Mark 16:17-18 - The Words of Jesus?
There was a documentary on the BBC several years ago, sorry I don't recall the title, but they were following a bloke who professed to be a faith healer. He did the usual crapola; crystals, healing hands, special magic herbs. The lot.

He was 'treating' one woman with aggressive cancer; at one point, as I recall, she saw her doctor who urged her to get hospital treatment immediately. She refused, mainly because of the side-effects and the lack of a guarantee of success, and went back to the fake healer.

The next time this quack paid her a visit, he knocked on her door and was told by a relative that she'd died that morning.

Did this so-called healer accept any responsibility for her death? Did he even show any guilt?

You only need one guess.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#23
RE: Mark 16:17-18 - The Words of Jesus?
(October 1, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Because God healed the guy even though the doctors and medicine helped.

Same thing happens with cancer patients, for example. They pray and pray and pray all the while receiving chemo & other medical treatment, and when they're free of cancer the prayer gets all the credit.

There really is no dealing with shitheads like that.
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#24
RE: Mark 16:17-18 - The Words of Jesus?
It is strange how God can't cure any disease that modern medical science doesn't already know how to cure. Just like how someone pointed out recently that during the Black Death religious people were dropping like flies. I guess God didn't see fit to cure that disease until after science discovered that it was transmitted by fleas on rats.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
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RE: Mark 16:17-18 - The Words of Jesus?
(October 1, 2013 at 4:47 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: It is strange how God can't cure any disease that modern medical science doesn't already know how to cure. Just like how someone pointed out recently that during the Black Death religious people were dropping like flies. I guess God didn't see fit to cure that disease until after science discovered that it was transmitted by fleas on rats.

It always leads a person to only one of two possible conclusions.

Their god is a lying, incompetent fucktard.
or
He doesn't exist.


I've got my money on the latter.
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#26
RE: Mark 16:17-18 - The Words of Jesus?
So "mysterious ways" really means "gets the credit for stuff real people actually do." Or as Jim Jefferies asked, "what's so mysterious about acting like a fucking asshole?"
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#27
RE: Mark 16:17-18 - The Words of Jesus?
My mother has kidney cancer. Every 3 months she has to fly to Houston to get top-of-the-line chemo treatments. She lives 1500 miles from Houston, and pays through the roof for this stuff. Am I glad she's able to get this service? Of course. But I don't see them as blessings. My mom, who is retired, still has to work as a substitute teacher so she can afford this shit. Science and her incredible determination is keeping her alive, not grace from some sky daddy. Faith and blessings get no credit from me. She's earned her survival, it wasn't a free ticket, like many Christians would tell you it is.

And yes, she is a faithful Christian.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
- Buddha
"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
- Dennis McKinsey
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