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Shooting at the Capital
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RE: Shooting at the Capital
October 4, 2013 at 6:03 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2013 at 6:04 pm by Brakeman.)
Why aren't our policemen trained on how to stop a car by shooting it's engine components.? There isn't that much variation in where the engine electronics is located and learning a couple would enable the stopping on the majority of vehicles. Why have such a phobia against shooting a hunk of metal but a love of splattering flesh?
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Because antifreeze is environmentally unfriendly, unlike exsanguinated corpses?
RE: Shooting at the Capital
October 4, 2013 at 7:12 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2013 at 7:13 pm by wwjs.)
The moment she tried to run an officer, they were justified to use deadly force. You think that if someone is running at an officer with a bat he's going to shoot him in the leg? Nope, he'll keep putting rounds in his chest until the threat is neutralized. PS shooting the engine won't stop the car immediately. Shooting the driver will.
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October 4, 2013 at 9:04 pm
(This post was last modified: October 4, 2013 at 9:04 pm by Brakeman.)
(October 4, 2013 at 7:12 pm)wwjs Wrote: The moment she tried to run an officer, they were justified to use deadly force. You think that if someone is running at an officer with a bat he's going to shoot him in the leg? Nope, he'll keep putting rounds in his chest until the threat is neutralized. PS shooting the engine won't stop the car immediately. Shooting the driver will. If you know where to shoot an engine compartment, it will stop the car immediately except for the rolling, and shooting the driver wouldn't do any better. If the cop didn't have a clear view that she was just a deranged unarmed girl, he had no business shooting anything. Shooting the engine was the right thing to do, shooting the young mother was not. I hope the guilt consumes these officers.
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Forget it. They'll all going to be told how heroic they were.
Rewarding 'heroic acts' with recognition is often the most damning thing one can receive. In this instance, it probably will be the only reprimand.
Confused? Welcome to the fog of war, stateside. (October 4, 2013 at 9:04 pm)Brakeman Wrote:(October 4, 2013 at 7:12 pm)wwjs Wrote: The moment she tried to run an officer, they were justified to use deadly force. You think that if someone is running at an officer with a bat he's going to shoot him in the leg? Nope, he'll keep putting rounds in his chest until the threat is neutralized. PS shooting the engine won't stop the car immediately. Shooting the driver will. It would be pure luck to shoot the right spot while a vehicle is moving. They did the right thing. It's also why it is stupid to try to shoot someone's hand rather than the body. You are taking the risk of many being killed instead of the just one.....the perpetrator. (October 5, 2013 at 12:22 pm)Isun Wrote:(October 4, 2013 at 9:04 pm)Brakeman Wrote: If you know where to shoot an engine compartment, it will stop the car immediately except for the rolling, and shooting the driver wouldn't do any better. Excuse me? That is not true. I was "trained" how to stop a vehicle with a gun. I have shot inside several vehicles in training and also how to shoot the occupants as well. Slanted windshields deflect all but the largest calibers. Standard body panels hardly deflect even the lowly 22's. The Peruvian police/soldiers I knew (family) were taught to fire at the firewall area to stop trucks and car bombs. With the ease of rigging a car with remote controls, the lack of knowledge of how to shoot to kill an engine is inexcusable. You are just trying to alibi for the shit cops. They were to the side of the car when they shot her. The bullets went through the passenger side door window. So how does a car threaten you from the side? I would never ask a cop to do anything that I wouldn't easily do myself. And I would not have to resort to killing her to stop her. As far as the silly "shooting the gun out of their hands" comment, It always depends on the situation doesn't it. If I'm sniping in a hidden location less than fifty yards away, and can place my rifle bullet anywhere I want without rush, why would I only restrict myself to a kill shot? That doesn't happen very often, but the reaction should fit the situation, never should it be canned as our cops behave.
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