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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 26, 2013 at 12:07 am
I've still got a few shots of Yaeger to take before I'm well and truly drunk.
But fuck if I'm not going to enjoy the last 3 nights of vacation!
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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 26, 2013 at 12:13 am
(October 25, 2013 at 11:56 pm)Polaris Wrote: Yet you're the one posting who is not actually drunk. Awww look guys! He thinks he's psychiiiiic.
Aw, who's a cute boy? You are!
Who comes up with false information about other members to be a dickhead? You doooo!
Aww does Polaris like his scritchums? Yes he doeees.
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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 26, 2013 at 12:16 am
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But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 26, 2013 at 12:18 am
Yeah I've been a bit drunk tonight, that's what I was trying to convey.
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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm
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(October 7, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You're an atheist born of ignorance rather than conviction. Whether that's better or worse I'm not sure.
Sorry,but strong atheism proves God cannot exist. Too many problems. God's omniscience vs free will. Problem of evil. And more. Theism is simply intellectually disreputable. God is a failed hypothesis. Ignorance of the facts is why people remain religious believers.
Knowledgeable strong atheists have conviction. When it comes to religion, we are all born ignorant. But strong atheists can learn God is a failed hypothesis and no longer be called ignorant.
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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 30, 2013 at 9:35 pm
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(October 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm)Cheerful Charlie Wrote: (October 7, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You're an atheist born of ignorance rather than conviction. Whether that's better or worse I'm not sure.
Sorry,but strong atheism proves God cannot exist. Too many problems. God's omniscience vs free will. Problem of evil. And more. Theism is simply intellectually disreputable. God is a failed hypothesis. Ignorance of the facts is why people remain religious believers.
Knowledgeable strong atheists have conviction. When it comes to religion, we are all born ignorant. But strong atheists can learn God is a failed hypothesis and no longer be called ignorant.
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Hey, just about every claim you have made against religion in this post is logically invalid and/or flat-out false.
Just sayin'
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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 31, 2013 at 1:42 am
(October 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm)Cheerful Charlie Wrote: Sorry,but strong atheism proves God cannot exist. Too many problems. God's omniscience vs free will. Problem of evil. And more. Theism is simply intellectually disreputable. God is a failed hypothesis. Ignorance of the facts is why people remain religious believers.
Knowledgeable strong atheists have conviction. When it comes to religion, we are all born ignorant. But strong atheists can learn God is a failed hypothesis and no longer be called ignorant.
You make me cringe. It is this sort of drivel that invites all the theist charges that atheism too is a religion. But you, Cheerful Charlie, are about as religious in your conviction as many fundamentalists. Like them you place a high value on the maintenance of certainty. I suspect you just need seasoning.
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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 31, 2013 at 4:23 pm
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(October 30, 2013 at 9:35 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote: (October 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm)Cheerful Charlie Wrote: Sorry,but strong atheism proves God cannot exist. Too many problems. God's omniscience vs free will. Problem of evil. And more. Theism is simply intellectually disreputable. God is a failed hypothesis. Ignorance of the facts is why people remain religious believers.
Knowledgeable strong atheists have conviction. When it comes to religion, we are all born ignorant. But strong atheists can learn God is a failed hypothesis and no longer be called ignorant.
Hey, just about every claim you have made against religion in this post is logically invalid and/or flat-out false.
Just sayin'
Not true. See my post Strong Atheism - Omnigenesis for a very good reason not to believe in the Omni-everything God of Christianity, Islam et al.
If God is creator of all, and is omniscient, knowing the future in full detail, then from any starting state of creation God chooses, the future will unfold in a strictly determinate fashion. Free will for sentient beings in such a Universe is impossible. So all moral evil in this Universe is willfully and purposefully created by God. So God is not as DEFINED, good, all good, good by nature.
Your God as defined by supposed relations from God is logically self contradictory and impossible.
There. Now you know. There are other very good strong atheism disproofs which in further days ahead I will be posting.
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(October 31, 2013 at 1:42 am)whateverist Wrote: (October 30, 2013 at 7:59 pm)Cheerful Charlie Wrote: Sorry,but strong atheism proves God cannot exist. Too many problems. God's omniscience vs free will. Problem of evil. And more. Theism is simply intellectually disreputable. God is a failed hypothesis. Ignorance of the facts is why people remain religious believers.
Knowledgeable strong atheists have conviction. When it comes to religion, we are all born ignorant. But strong atheists can learn God is a failed hypothesis and no longer be called ignorant.
You make me cringe. It is this sort of drivel that invites all the theist charges that atheism too is a religion. But you, Cheerful Charlie, are about as religious in your conviction as many fundamentalists. Like them you place a high value on the maintenance of certainty. I suspect you just need seasoning.
Is atheism a religion? Very well, then, it's the only true religion. With strong religion, certainty as regards the omni-everything gods of Christianity,Islam et al is pretty easy.
Actually, I am not religious, you like word games it seems. If I am sure about anything based on logic, I am religious? No, I am simply sure based on evidence about my lack of religion. Now, how much evidence do you want that the God of Christianity and Islam are logically impossible? See my answer to Vinny above, omnigenesis.
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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 31, 2013 at 4:44 pm
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(October 7, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You're an atheist born of ignorance rather than conviction.
God created everybody and so including us atheists so god by your logic made us atheists as well and he is omnipotent so he knew that the people he created would become atheists.
And just look at christian faith you people believe in Jew zombie,who is his own father and he can make you live forever if you accept him as your savior,so he can clean your soul because of an woman who was created from an limb ate an apple.
This is what you people believe in and you are here calling us ignorant,just look in the shit you believe and next time before you make an stupid thread like this or go on calling other people ignorant because they weren't thought by their parents the same religion as you,just stick with your ideas and leave other a lone it's this simple
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RE: [split]Atheism is based of ignorance.
October 31, 2013 at 7:05 pm
(October 31, 2013 at 4:44 pm)Pretzel Logic Wrote: (October 7, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You're an atheist born of ignorance rather than conviction.
God created everybody and so including us atheists so god by your logic made us atheists as well and he is omnipotent so he knew that the people he created would become atheists.
And just look at christian faith you people believe in Jew zombie,who is his own father and he can make you live forever if you accept him as your savior,so he can clean your soul because of an woman who was created from an limb ate an apple.
This is what you people believe in and you are here calling us ignorant,just look in the shit you believe and next time before you make an stupid thread like this or go on calling other people ignorant because they weren't thought by their parents the same religion as you,just stick with your ideas and leave other a lone it's this simple
Again, see the Bible, Romans et al. God decides who will be elect and who will be reprobates. Romans 8 and 9, God the great potter. All was predetermined from all eternity. God's predestination of all.God's providence, God's eternal plan.
So many Christians seem to not know their very own Bible. So if we do not believe, it is all God's fault and God knows how to correct it all. Who are these Christians to argue with God?
Don't you just love theology based on revelations
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