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Atheist vs. Antitheists
#41
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
Captain Colostomy Wrote:His pedophilic pastors in the RCC know how to use colons too.
Yeah, but I was refering to punctuation rather than penetration Smile
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#42
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
Most atheists in the world are normal people just like most believers in the world are normal people. It's the extremes from both sides that give their fellows a bad rap.

I see many anti-theists as being too cowardly to admit humanity itself is the root of all evil.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#43
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
(October 24, 2013 at 10:02 pm)Polaris Wrote: Most atheists in the world are normal people just like most believers in the world are normal people. It's the extremes from both sides that give their fellows a bad rap.

I see many anti-theists as being too cowardly to admit humanity itself is the root of all evil.

This for me hints at the deeper issues. There is a very particular brand of atheism that has emerged that I see as reactionary rather than ideological. Many of these reactionary atheists tend to be anti-theist. No offence intended to anti-theists who have a considered approach.


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"The greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions" - Leonardo da Vinci

"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
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#44
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
As an antitheist, I know that religion is just as corrupt as the people who adhere to it.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#45
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
(October 25, 2013 at 2:57 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: As an antitheist, I know that religion is just as corrupt as the people who adhere to it.

I'd say it's only as corrupt as the people that adhere to it
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#46
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
(October 24, 2013 at 10:02 pm)Polaris Wrote: Most atheists in the world are normal people just like most believers in the world are normal people. It's the extremes from both sides that give their fellows a bad rap.

I see many anti-theists as being too cowardly to admit humanity itself is the root of all evil.

Woe now,

I have met a couple of atheists that say "we need to end religion" implying force. I tell them that is impractical and no one will get a utopia.

BUT simply saying "that is not true" or "bullshit the Yankees did not win the Superbowl" or "suck it Jesus", or "Mohammed is a dick if you think he wants you to treat women like property", is merely being offensive, but hardly "militant".

Humanity is not either good or bad because evolution produces BOTH.

I see a lot of good in humanity, but I also see ignorance producing human concocted clubs called religion that distract our species from seeing our common condition.
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#47
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
(October 25, 2013 at 3:35 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I see a lot of good in humanity, but I also see ignorance producing human concocted clubs called religion that distract our species from seeing our common condition.
I competely agree. Unfortunately, ever since Dawkins wrote that bloody book, I've seen an increasing amount of people who seem to treat their atheism as substitute for religion rather than a lack of it
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#48
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
(October 24, 2013 at 10:02 pm)Polaris Wrote: I see many anti-theists as being too cowardly to admit humanity itself is the root of all evil.

Like who?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#49
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
(October 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm)Faith No More Wrote:
(October 24, 2013 at 10:02 pm)Polaris Wrote: I see many anti-theists as being too cowardly to admit humanity itself is the root of all evil.

Like who?

The ones on some American site called Huffingtonpost (it's a site that sadly has diminished itself to the level of Fox News with its journalistic incompetence) who claim religion is the source of all evil.....I've seen enough evidence to point to humanity actually being the source of evil.....really not a hard thing to understand from an atheist perspective actually since the claim is religion is man-made in and of itself.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
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#50
RE: Atheist vs. Antitheists
(October 25, 2013 at 11:03 pm)Polaris Wrote:
(October 25, 2013 at 4:08 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Like who?

The ones on some American site called Huffingtonpost (it's a site that sadly has diminished itself to the level of Fox News with its journalistic incompetence) who claim religion is the source of all evil.....I've seen enough evidence to point to humanity actually being the source of evil.....really not a hard thing to understand from an atheist perspective actually since the claim is religion is man-made in and of itself.
I lean toward anti-theist sentiments, but I concede that people are the root of the problem. People created religion, and used it to bring the masses to heel and continue to use it to further their own personal/political goals.

I also concede to the fact that most people who adhere to religion are not evil, nor are they a part of some plot, they are simply fooled and mislead by the dogma.

People are the root of evil, and aren't just limited to using religion as their tool. That being said I still think that it's the worst weapon we have ever used on ourselves and by far the most dangerous.
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